Frank Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 (edited) Was at my mates private range today, shooting thick heavy steel plates at a measured 250 yds, in a gusty wind., Great result, very intersting, using American eagle 55 grain FMJ .223 factory ammo. As you can see from the pic, it went right threw. Edited April 2, 2006 by Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Red Fox Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 By the looks of the plate it's 3.2mm thick or 10 swg in real money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kip270 Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Can't beat FMJ for bouncing through steel. Just glad i'm not in Iraq Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 By the looks of the plate it's 3.2mm thick or 10 swg in real money. Nope, 8mm mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 (edited) How thick was the steel Frank? Edit: our posts crossed in mid air Does make you gulp when you see that, it helps to double underline the importance of decent backstops when out shooting Edited April 2, 2006 by stuartp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 How thick was the steel Frank? Does make you gulp when you see that, it helps to double underline the importance of decent backstops when out shooting 8 mm Stuart, i will measure it with measuring tape and show you by pic if you want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Red Fox Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 I see it more clearly now when you look at th eone on the red dot to the left you get a good view of the thickness..........................bloody horendous round that. I think it would take more than your thumb on th eend of the barrel to stop that coming out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kip270 Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 How thick was the steel Frank? Edit: our posts crossed in mid air Does make you gulp when you see that, it helps to double underline the importance of decent backstops when out shooting What do you shoot with FMJ But backstops are a must Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 I think it would take more than your thumb on th eend of the barrel to stop that coming out... Thats for sure. It was amazing what it did. Some round the .223 . I was only practising by the way and just wanted to confirm what i heard, as i dont use FMJ rounds for hunting what so ever, just in case anyone wondered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 (edited) . Edited September 3, 2009 by JohnGalway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 What do you shoot with FMJ But backstops are a must Ahh now that would be telling Actually I ddin't even raed the title of the post properly before replying so didn't see the 'FMJ bit or the '8mm' bit. I went to bed at that point which is what I should have done half an hour earlier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Foxes down Franks way have taken to wearing bulletproof vests That wont stop me from shooting them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Here is the ammo itself, hallow point on left and FMJ on right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy trucker Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 i'm sure its federal ammo is it frank stamped fc on the base of the brass. i use fed brass through my 223 and find it to be the dogs wottsits . its worth saving frank for WHEN u can reload . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 i'm sure its federal ammo is it frank stamped fc on the base of the brass.i use fed brass through my 223 and find it to be the dogs wottsits . its worth saving frank for WHEN u can reload . Yes Tommy, its made by Federal. About the brass, i cant even keep that , have to give all empty brass to my local firearms dealer till hopefully the reloading law comes into effect, if it does at all. Its a crazy made up firearms law over here at present. Apparently, if reloading does come in, we can only load up to a 100 at a time. and have very good reason to reload, being cheaper wont do apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kip270 Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Frank, did you shoot at that plate with your normal foxing round to see the difference between the FMJ and Ballistic tip/soft point's?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Frank, did you shoot at that plate with your normal foxing round to see the difference between the FMJ and Ballistic tip/soft point's?? Not yet Kip, but i will do as soon as i get the chance. Weather turned nasty yesterday after a while, so we packed up. As soon as i do i will post results. :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kip270 Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 :o Top man Frank :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy trucker Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 (edited) i'm sure its federal ammo is it frank stamped fc on the base of the brass.i use fed brass through my 223 and find it to be the dogs wottsits . its worth saving frank for WHEN u can reload . Yes Tommy, its made by Federal. About the brass, i cant even keep that :o , have to give all empty brass to my local firearms dealer till hopefully the reloading law comes into effect, if it does at all. Its a crazy made up firearms law over here at present. :( :( Apparently, if reloading does come in, we can only load up to a 100 at a time. :( and have very good reason to reload, being cheaper wont do apparently. :( :( its not the cost. its consistancy & accuracy that is why i reload mate, cost is a bonus. even if it worked out more costly i would still reload your right mate its crazy law over there mate :blink: :blink: Edited April 3, 2006 by tommy trucker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 its not the cost. its consistancy & accuracy that is why i reload mate' date=' cost is a bonus. even if it worked out more costly i would still reload your right mate its crazy law over there mate :o :( [/quote'] Trying to explain to our police about consistancy ect, will just go in one ear and out the other. :( They are very ignorant when it comes to firearms and reloading. :( What is needed in our police forces over here is someone like you all have in your police force, a FLO, who understands where people like us are coming from. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Frank you should see what this calibre as done to my 16mm thk swinging metal backstop :( ...so much so that I've cut 2 more 10mm thick plates that bolt on to the front of it :o :( Hope you get the same results as me in the hollow point :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Hope you get the same results as me in the hollow point :o So do i, im looking farward to using the hollow points now. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy trucker Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 (edited) its not the cost. its consistancy & accuracy that is why i reload mate' date=' cost is a bonus. even if it worked out more costly i would still reload your right mate its crazy law over there mate :( :( [/quote'] Trying to explain to our police about consistancy ect, will just go in one ear and out the other. :( They are very ignorant when it comes to firearms and reloading. What is needed in our police forces over here is someone like you all have in your police force, a FLO, who understands where people like us are coming from. can people like BASC not do anything to educate the law in s. ireland surely a consistant, accurate round is better than one which aint. i used fed power shocks with the batch i bought i got 1"@ 100yds when i bought some more (differnt batch) i just couldn't get any less than 2" @ 100yds :( :blink: :blink: so this meant 2" @ 100, 4" @ 200, & 8"@ 300 that just was no good to me at all for my type of shooting, in fact it was dangerous in my eyes and could of resulted in a lot of wounded quarry. so i decided to learn how to reload my own and have never looked back since :o it's accuracy that kills your intended quarry cleanly and instantly :( Edited April 3, 2006 by tommy trucker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 [ can people like BASC not do anything to educate the law in s. ireland surely a consistant, accurate round is better than one which aint. i used fed power shocks with the batch i bought i got 1"@ 100yds when i bought some more (differnt batch) i just couldn't get any less than 2" @ 100yds :blink: :blink: so this meant 2" @ 100, 4" @ 200, & 8"@ 300 that just was no good to me at all for my type of shooting, in fact it was dangerous in my eyes and could of resulted in a lot of wounded quarry. so i decided to learn how to reload my own and have never looked back since :( it's accuracy that kills your intended quarry cleanly and instantly :( Tommy, i agree with you a 100% mate :( We have the equivalent to the BASC over here and they are constantly fighting our corner, if not for them, we would of not got this far and i would not have my .223 . I am a member of this organisation, known over here as N.A.R.G.C= National Association of Regional Game Councils and it pays to join them over here to make irish ownership of leagle firearms stronger. :( If reloading gets in this summer, i will have to apply to reload and that should be fun and games i can tell you now. :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy trucker Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 good luck mate hope things go your way :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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