What is the best caliber rifle for

[al4x]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited July 5, 2011 by al4x

[blindeye]

Yeah, gain some experiance al4x, it is a rabbit calibre it does do foxes and has been doing so for over 80 yrs before you came along, not ideal on rabbits but will render them useable. 17 hmr hold 49 ftlb of energy at 200 yds and will fail to expand correctly the Hornet has 187 ft lb at the same range 1.5" less drop and 4" less wind at 10mph. as a result of this and other failings I totally fail to see the HMR as a foxer - like i say so do many police areas!If it had to be a rimfire on FOX and Rabbits the only choice for myself would be the .22WMR at more limited ranges but it doesn't for me and neither does the op's choice need to be so limited if he asks and states his reasons! Now back to those enegy levels why can you shoot rabbits with a 240ft lb hmr when you cant with a 650-700 ft lb hornet? It surely only range dependant, shot placement being equal . I still think its a two gun thing for him though reloading is easy you might find that out someday but you will perhaps need to listen up a bit first. My first FAC as an over 18 granted a .243" win for fox and deer by the way, i know its harder now but far from impossible. I might have had my own Hornet a few weeks but in that time i have put over 100 rounds through it in the fields and have shot with plenty of others using one over the years and have had the good scense to always listen to those more experianced users. then again i have been shooting a heck of a deal longer than some and have the benefit live on a large upland farm miles from anywere. you are of course welcome to your own opinion but exactly how is a .223 rem so superiour as a fox gun? oh sorry you can't answer that as you havent actually owned both calibres have you? Most foxes being taken below 200yds? Dead is dead you know you can't kill them double or tripple dead. A bit like saying the .243" is a better foxer than a .223" which it undoubtedly is if you need to shoot them at 300 yds and further but at appropriate ranges .223 ranges its just a bigger bang more powder and faster throat erosion

to be fair a complete waste of time this . whos got this and whos been doing it the longest and i know more than you . time to grow up people .next your tell me that my 22.250 is over kill for foxes ? i have shot more foxes with more calibres than i can think of.i have shot foxes at 300 yards because i know i can . as EXPERIANCE has shown me how . i use a 22.250 as its the best fox calibre you can get .( reloaded ) this is just another post which people defend there rabbit calibres to justify shooting foxes with .use the correct tool for the job .and before i get slated i have been shootin foxes for years and years with the correct calibre . as before give the bloke advice not loads and loads of rubbish for him to take to his feo . as before its going to be a two rifle application . 22rf -17hmr rabbit then larger calibres for foxes (222-223-22.250 centrefire only ) but with most feo they like you to have experiance before the issue you with a centrefire calibre . just wait a few months then re apply . easy .

[kent]

Your right going nowere, have you even read the posts in this thread. someone says 22-250 is the best fox calibre, someone else says 22-250 ack another says .243 then we get a Swift fan putting in his/her view, gosh it goes on and on. Truth is the op stated a lot earlier he was going two rifle route there are very few things that realy cross over to the extent as being as good as a 22 lr on rabbit and as good as a .243 on fox for one gun though there are options if you can compromise a little at both ends. If you run back in this thread you will find me posting as such two guns is a better solution for this but one gun can be done