Brown Sauce Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 My brother in law has granted permission to control the rabbit numbers on his 8 acres using shotgun or .22lr. Already have a shotgun, but would like some help from the collective wisdom of PW, before speaking to the FEO about an fac. The land is in Devon and I'm in Swansea. How easy would it be to obtain an fac for a 22.lr, given the 2 different constabularies. Or should I stick to the 12g! Personally think a .22lr with silencer, would help to reduce the number of bunnies quickier than a shotgun. Any assistance, greatly received Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huffhuff Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 You could also consider a 17HMR. But as I am not local, I wouldn't like to comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Is the land safe for .22lr? Do you know if the land is on the police register and cleared for FAC? A telephone call should clarify this point ..... If not, is it safe?... backstops etc. The land is not all that big so safety is even more important as you will get some ricochettes with .22lr .17hmr is better but you can still get some ricochettes. Does it have houses around etc? What distances can you shoot sensibly there? .22lr you have about 60 or so yards ... bit more with holdover. .17hmr up to 120 yds or so without holdover. .22lr is much quieter but that is not much of an issue to bunnies apart from a 12 bore which will scare more!! The police issue with 2 counties is not too bad but takes longer as the land must be cleared by that county and then details passed to your licencing county... just time really :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Sauce Posted August 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Is the land safe for .22lr? Do you know if the land is on the police register and cleared for FAC? A telephone call should clarify this point ..... If not, is it safe?... backstops etc. The land is not all that big so safety is even more important as you will get some ricochettes with .22lr .17hmr is better but you can still get some ricochettes. Does it have houses around etc? What distances can you shoot sensibly there? .22lr you have about 60 or so yards ... bit more with holdover. .17hmr up to 120 yds or so without holdover. .22lr is much quieter but that is not much of an issue to bunnies apart from a 12 bore which will scare more!! The police issue with 2 counties is not too bad but takes longer as the land must be cleared by that county and then details passed to your licencing county... just time really :blink: Cheers Malk, we don't think the land is yet cleared for fac, so I'll make the call. The land itself runs down hill for about 600yrds into a wooded valley, drops about 100ft and back up the otherside. There is a house on the far side of the valley, but nothing nearer. Most of the shooting would be down hill. What would you say the main reason for refusing the fac would be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrie Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Hiya, I know this story is set in Scotland...but, my mate got the shooting on 57 acres of rabbit loaded land, he hoped to use it as a basis for getting his FAC, i.e. .22LR...and a .22 FAC airgun...FEO told him no way...not enough land to let him get his FAC, .....:( So, sub 12lb airgun only...BUT, as I already have my FAC, and if I deem it safe, I can shoot there....any mishaps however are down to me...so, I dont shoot there either.. Also...re different counties...., I have land in one County, while I live in an ajoining county.... that was used to enable me getting my FAC for.222 then my variation to .243..all my FEO did was contact the other FEO, he called the farmer, job done.....BUT, I also have decent packs of land in my home county... As I said, we are in Scotland.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Cheers Malk, we don't think the land is yet cleared for fac, so I'll make the call. The land itself runs down hill for about 600yrds into a wooded valley, drops about 100ft and back up the otherside. There is a house on the far side of the valley, but nothing nearer. Most of the shooting would be down hill. What would you say the main reason for refusing the fac would be? Tis small :blink: but all this depends on your FEO. I would go for a FAC.... But maybe get some more land signed up for your application (anywhere). I've known land be refused for most FAC but allowed for FAC air only. This is expensive for the kit. .22lr is cheap to buy and feed a fantastic tool (as long as you accept its limitations) IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Sauce Posted September 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Managed to convince the current Mrs B that having a 2nd gun in the house, is no different to the one already in the cabinet. Have spoken to the FEO, discussed the land and location. Has no problem with the size, as long as the Devon firearms dept find the land safe for FAC. So a pack is winging its way from South Wales dept for completion. From reading reviews think the .17hmr will be just the ticket. So once agreed I'm off shopping. Now then what .17hmr and mod, on a moderate budget, are the best IYHO?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 (edited) On another note why not a moderated shottie? .410 or 20 bore? I would have looked at a modded .410 multishot http://www.saddleryandgunroom.co.uk/gunroom/hushpower/ed_cooke_review.htm Gives an option if devon dont deem it safe for HMR/LR Edited September 22, 2011 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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