lewj Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 i like the look of live trapping i dont have much of a clue im doing some youtubing, googlen and some forum serching is it fair .? whats the cost of it all Larsen as a decoy bird .? id start off for magpies then move on to crows when i get my crop protection permission in the summer i know that youd check them as often as posible and keep both decoy and trapped bird well watered and fed so its humane any info / tips will be appreciated thanks lewj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 i like the look of live trapping i dont have much of a clue im doing some youtubing, googlen and some forum serching is it fair .? ASKING THAT, THEN I DON'T THINK THIS IS FOR YOU whats the cost of it all, MAKING TRAPS YOURSELF, THUS COSTS ARE MATERIALS ONLY, Larsen as a decoy bird .? LARSEN IS THE NAME OF TRAP, NOT A BIRD?? id start off for magpies then move on to crows when i get my crop protection permission in the summer, USING A LARSEN TRAP IS NOT REALLY GOING TO TRAP ENOUGH BIRDS FOR CROP PROTECTION, ITS MORE FOR GAME REARING PROTECTION, SHOOTING/SHOTGUNS IS MORE CROP PROTECTION RELATED i know that youd check them as often as posible and keep both decoy and trapped bird well watered and fed so its humane, TRAPS NEED CHECKING A MINIUM OF ONCE EVERY 24HRS, PREFERBLY TWICE, ITS THE LAW, OTHERWISE YOU COULD GET DOWN FOR ANIMAL CRUELTY any info / tips will be appreciated thanks lewj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Right, I'm not one to discourage newcomers but I'm going to be very straight with you. Live trapping is not a hobby, it's a method of pest control usually carried out under the terms of a general licence. It is not something you 'fancy having a go at' for the sake of it. Unless you have a specific need or reason to do it then leave well alone, it's likely that you would be liable to prosecution under the Wildlife and Countryside Act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thefisheroffish Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 I agree with Tug/dave. It's pest control. Magpies, are pests. No problem there. Crows, can be pests, and the list goes on. Learn from those with experience and those with the laws. Make sure it's legal Good luck... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 They might be classified as pests, but without justification they aren't just "on the list". The first port of call would be for you to find the general licences issued by Natural England and study their conditions so that you understand the reasons for control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) My previous two replies might have seemed a little harsh, I was typing on a smart phone so was pushed for time. Search out the general licences and have a good read of them, it's important that you understand the reasons for controlling the species that they apply to and how those conditions may apply to your situation. The key point is that you need to comply with the terms of the licence and, more importantly, be able to justify the control you are carrying out to anyone who might ask (if a member of the public calls the police, the police will usually enlist the help of the RSPCA to advise - it pays to know the law and be able to answer any questions confidently to prevent any misunderstanding). As I said in my first post, it's not just something you do because you "fancy a go". There are a number of people who rely on the use of live traps for their employment or to protect their livelihood and stock - if people start using traps in a way that contravene the GL's then the way of the world is that the anti's will use it as evidence to get them banned and they will be lost to us all. I must applaud you for seeking advice from people on here, but unless you have a specific need or reason to control corvids and magpies on your land (and the time to check traps religiously at least once a day, preferably twice) then I'd find a different hobby. Edited February 9, 2012 by Tug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thefisheroffish Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Well said Tug, I agree. I have squirrel problem,(eating through the roof) and live trap them. I relocate them to a woodland area 3 miles from people. I check on them to make sure they're fine. I do no damage to them, and will only do it if they are a problem. What's your problem EXACTLY? Make sure it's legal as Tug corrected me for, and don't do it for,"fun". Nothing against you trapping, just your motives. Good luck Lewj ( Try to check your traps 2+ times a day ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Well said Tug, I agree. I have squirrel problem,(eating through the roof) and live trap them. I relocate them to a woodland area 3 miles from people. I check on them to make sure they're fine. I do no damage to them, and will only do it if they are a problem. What's your problem EXACTLY? Make sure it's legal as Tug corrected me for, and don't do it for,"fun". Nothing against you trapping, just your motives. Good luck Lewj ( Try to check your traps 2+ times a day ) Grey squirrels? It's an offence to release them without a specific licence to do so as they are a non-native species. Knock on the head with a priest and feed them to the ferrets/hawk/dog... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxerboy Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 (edited) I agree with Tug/dave. It's pest control. Magpies, are pests. No problem there. Crows, can be pests, and the list goes on. Learn from those with experience and those with the laws. Make sure it's legal Good luck... Love how you can give advice in one post then advise something totally illegal in your next post... Quality!!! :good: Edited February 11, 2012 by gixxerboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thefisheroffish Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 I've learned my lesson, Thanks tug! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thefisheroffish Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Love how you can give advice in one post then advise something totally illegal in your next post... Quality!!! :good: Yes it takes skill/Stupidity... :look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxerboy Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Yes it takes skill/Stupidity... :look: We all possess that skill at times mate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thefisheroffish Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 We all possess that skill at times mate... Haha too true... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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