kent Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 I've never tried a switch rod quite fancy one though ! Must say I do like a 14fter on their day though good to see the line sizzling out on a decent river Ideal for some of the rivers round your parts. IMO a 9 or 10# 14ft, 8 weight switch 11ft and a 10ft 7# single hander and you can cover any needs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul87 Posted June 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 (edited) mate, your on the wrong rod. AN 11 FT SWITCH ROD is ideal for smaller venues and if you snap T, single and double spey, snake roll depending on conditions or requirements is ideal for even big tubes. there is a weight placement difference in some of the lines mentioned and a requirement to understand this is imperitive. Tell us how far you need to cast and how you intend to achieve it in terms of cast made and you will find your question answered more fully. also what 9 # as there are heavily over and under rated rods about. For what its worth i use short shooting heads and tips almost exclusively these days on switch and double handed rods but wouldn't wish to fish with a long single handed in 9# and such lines in any river in the world Kent I do appreciate your advice but I want to get the best out of the rod I have. I would love to be in a position to afford a switch rod and 14 foot double hander never mind Sage ones. But I'm only a young man of 24 and every spare penny I have at the minute is goin towards a deposit for a mortgage. My main priority is getting on the property ladder on my own. I do value your opinion and advise not only in this thread but in most of your replies, but I can't help feel that sometimes you like to point out that peoples methods or equipment isn't up to scratch or not as good as yours. Maybe I'm wrong and I apologize if I am. But please remember not everyone is in the same financial position, be great if we were but unfortunately we aren't all as well off as some. My rod isn't great, its not expensive but if its good enough for my father who has been fishing for over 40 years and his mate who owned a tackle shop then its plenty good for me. My father uses his for all the rivers, I intend to fish, with a worcester DT9 lines and manages fine. But he doesn't roll cast, just a lot more experience to be able to overhead cast in confined spaces and still be able to get the line where he wants it. I'm asking for a line that I can snap t, spey and roll cast with. Maximum distance cast will be around 30 yards when casting at a 45 degree angle downstream. And I can assure you the rod is capable of all the casts mentioned. Thanks Paul Edited to add it would be quite a stiff rod it will throw the snowbee 7-8 rated switch line which is 400 odd grain. But it is heavy work when used single handed for long periods, plus I have had many broken knuckles and done my wrist a few times which annoys me after a while too. The other thing I don't like about the line is the length of the belly. It makes it very difficult to throw a short cast and requires a lot of line to be out to use it to its full potential. Especially when your adding 16ft on for leader and poly leader. Edited June 22, 2012 by paul87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 Kent I do appreciate your advice but I want to get the best out of the rod I have. I would love to be in a position to afford a switch rod and 14 foot double hander never mind Sage ones. But I'm only a young man of 24 and every spare penny I have at the minute is goin towards a deposit for a mortgage. My main priority is getting on the property ladder on my own. I do value your opinion and advise not only in this thread but in most of your replies, but I can't help feel that sometimes you like to point out that peoples methods or equipment isn't up to scratch or not as good as yours. Maybe I'm wrong and I apologize if I am. But please remember not everyone is in the same financial position, be great if we were but unfortunately we aren't all as well off as some. My rod isn't great, its not expensive but if its good enough for my father who has been fishing for over 40 years and his mate who owned a tackle shop then its plenty good for me. My father uses his for all the rivers, I intend to fish, with a worcester DT9 lines and manages fine. But he doesn't roll cast, just a lot more experience to be able to overhead cast in confined spaces and still be able to get the line where he wants it. I'm asking for a line that I can snap t, spey and roll cast with. Maximum distance cast will be around 30 yards when casting at a 45 degree angle downstream. And I can assure you the rod is capable of all the casts mentioned. Thanks Paul Edited to add it would be quite a stiff rod it will throw the snowbee 7-8 rated switch line which is 400 odd grain. But it is heavy work when used single handed for long periods, plus I have had many broken knuckles and done my wrist a few times which annoys me after a while too. The other thing I don't like about the line is the length of the belly. It makes it very difficult to throw a short cast and requires a lot of line to be out to use it to its full potential. Especially when your adding 16ft on for leader and poly leader. i appriciate what your saying and by no means do you need a sage (sorry that was a diversion in relation more to manufacturers ratings) . casting a rod that is heavy and or hard work can do a lot of damage to your tecnique and your body over time, i suffer from a number of issues from the same- involving physiotherapy and possible future surgery, most was inflicted before i was 30 so take note. There is no point recomending a specific line weight but i strongly suspect lighter than nine will be better than heavier for yours married with good timing and teqnique. The Wulf triangle taper is about the best for your use regards profile and distubution, if you know when things feel right its worth making your own line by cutting and splicing and its quite a satifying process when you get it right and not expensive to play around with some Bin end lines. Most likely you are not getting the rod to work during your casting and are compensating with heavier lines, this will generally drop your catches and has the potential to lead to a broken rod. Ok i am assuming a lot but i recon an hour or two with a proper instuctor will pay more dividends than buying new lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul87 Posted June 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 Thanks for that I know my technique isn't the best and luckily my brother is happy to help, just so happens he is going on an instructors course. Although he is younger than me he I well clued up on fly fishing and has or has had any fly rod you could imagine. He fished a 10.5ft beulah switch rod last year and is now using the new loop cross something or other 12ft double hander, which is in his opinion more rod than necessary for our rivers. He recommended the rio but I thought I'd ask here to see if there were other possible more suitable lines. Glad I did because I only new of the mainstream ones and never heard of the Royal Wulff lines. So I think I will get one next week. Cheers guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefy Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 AIRFLOW for me never had a problem with these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 I have to say myself and many of my friends knacked their wrists elbows casting 11ft 7-8 weights. Not really very practical IMHO if you fish alot 9-10ft is plenty for a single hander. Of course each to his own but I'm pretty reluctant to chuck more than 300grains with a single hander if I fish . Please invite me marlin fishing though I'll manage a day or two with a 14wieght Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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