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Yes, they can go reasonably well. Yes I have driven many modern diesels. But petrol's do have better low-end acceleration, and anybody who thinks that they sound and drive the same is usually attempting to justify to themselves that diesels are OK!

The still knock on harsh acceleration (unless your all deaf?), even the most refined ones sound like a bag of spanners compared to half decent petrol.

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with them, and I'm not saying it matters to most people, but they are very different.

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Yes, they can go reasonably well. Yes I have driven many modern diesels. But petrol's do have better low-end acceleration, and anybody who thinks that they sound and drive the same is usually attempting to justify to themselves that diesels are OK!

The still knock on harsh acceleration (unless your all deaf?), even the most refined ones sound like a bag of spanners compared to half decent petrol.

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with them, and I'm not saying it matters to most people, but they are very different.

 

This makes me think you've never driven a decent diesel - on a discovery TDV6 you can actually hear the injector click - thats not a knock - I have run a few good petrol engined cars and a few good diesel engined cars and I can honestly say a modern decent deisel has a better growl.

 

And again you are simply incorrect about petrols having better low end acceleration - maybe you will find some do and if you conpare the older diesel engines then yes - but most diesels have better torque per cc of capacity than a petrol - torque is the power to turn something against a resisting force (a wheel against the weight of the car in this case) more torque = more movement...simples...probably a shorter power band granted but thats down to gearing.

 

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Gixer

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Also peak torque on diesel kick in lower down the rev range useful if you don't have launch control........

 

Torque and bhp are intertwined and its the power delivery curve that matters. Brushless electric motors have max torque at 0rpm so will accelerate incredibly fast! Face it fossil fuels are going to loose out to electric power in the next 20 years. Enjoy while you still can (as electrics will no doubt have auto speed restrictions built in and will shop you themselves for speeding or doing anything fun...

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Also peak torque on diesel kick in lower down the rev range useful if you don't have launch control........

 

Torque and bhp are intertwined and its the power delivery curve that matters. Brushless electric motors have max torque at 0rpm so will accelerate incredibly fast! Face it fossil fuels are going to loose out to electric power in the next 20 years. Enjoy while you still can (as electrics will no doubt have auto speed restrictions built in and will shop you themselves for speeding or doing anything fun...

 

Hopefully there will be a man down the arches with a laptop to remove something like that,they seem to be able to do everything else. :good:

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