Graco adjustable but plate!!

[chady]

Hi

 

Looking at getting a graco adjustable but plate as the stock on my shotgun is not quite long enough for me (Winchester select).

 

Now I understand you have to grind these down to fit your stock! So how hard is this and what is the best way to do it?? And how do you polish it to a nice finish??

 

Thanks for you help

 

Jamie

[Gordon R]

Jamie - I have a spare one of these. If you decide to take the plunge, I could be persuaded to sell - for a lot less than shop price. I no longer have the gun that it was intended for.

 

They look easy enough to do. Scribe around your stock - grind the excess off with a flap wheel. Polishing just takes a little more effort.

Edited November 25, 2012 by Gordon R

[chady]

Hi thanks very kind off you

 

is that the standard one or the one for the automatics?? And how much would you want for it??

[Gordon R]

Standard for an over and under.

 

They retail around the £70 mark from memory. £35 collected or £38 posted. I would stand Paypal deduction - if appropriate.

[chady]

On phone that sounds very fair but can't see your location I'm from Leicester where are you from please if to far ill pay p and p.

 

Thanks again Jamie

[Gordon R]

Bolton - North West.

[chady]

A bit far ill pay postage thanks if that is ok

 

Can you send me a PayPal invoice ill pm details or send me yours and ill pay via PayPal if that's ok

 

[Gordon R]

Fair enough. You have PM.

[chady]

Bought thanks Gordon.

 

So if any one have fitted one of these and got any tips on what to use and how best to grind down and polish please.

 

Thanks

[Alan Maughan]

Bought thanks Gordon.

 

So if any one have fitted one of these and got any tips on what to use and how best to grind down and polish please.

 

Thanks

 

It very much depends on what tools you have available but generally here's the order of work.

 

Scribe the plate with the stock shape using either a scriber or a darning needle/bradawl or something similar. Hacksaw the excess off to within as close to the lines as you feel comfortable. You could then file the last 1mm or less off to the lines. Once your happy 200 then 400 grit paper will get the file marks out and a final polish with medium wire wool will have it looking nice.

 

I used a hacksaw then finished to the line with a 60 grit disk sander on my lathe with a home made sanding table, then the 200-400 emery paper and wire wool.

[chady]

Thanks done it and all went well

 

Prob not as good as a gunsmith or some one who is used to working with metal

 

But never done any thing with metal before and it's 98% good

 

So thanks

 

Jamie

[Gordon R]

Any photos Jamie?

[chady]

Ill put some up when fitted the butt pad:)

[chady]

Hi

 

Heares the Photo's sorry about quality ill never make a photographer!!

 

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010 by chad318, on Flickr

 

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009 by chad318, on Flickr

 

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008 by chad318, on Flickr

 

 

Well I don’t think I did a bad job.

 

I have never worked with mettle before so it was a learning curve for me

 

I am not saying this is the right way but this is how I did it and what I would do differently.

 

I had to make the hole in the stock slightly bigger. So I did not want to put gun in vice! So wrapped stock in a towel and got my miss to put her weight on it while I chiselled the hole bigger. I was only making it a couple of mm bigger any bigger and I would have drilled it out.

 

I then put the plate on the stock centrally and marked the fixing holes. Then pre drilled to stop wood splitting and screwed the plate to the stock

 

I then scribed around the stock on the plat.

 

I put a towel in the vice to protect the plate and clamped it tight!

 

I used this to grind the plate down with

 

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Power+Tool+Accessories/Power+Sanding/Rhodius+Zirconium+Flap+Disc+115+x+222mm+40+Grit/d80/sd1790/p91880

 

The 40 and 80 grit 40 first then 80.

 

Now the only way is take your time and keep putting back on stock to check your progress!

 

And you can all ways take more of but you can’t put on so don’t get too carried away!!

 

Now if you look at these disks they slope and they are not flat so when I Had finished it had slightly bevelled the with at a slight angle but it looked ok and did not bother me.

 

Two ways I have been told.

 

1. Use a pillar drill with a flap wheel

 

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Power+Tool+Accessories/Power+Sanding/Rhodius+Zirconium+Flap+Disc+115+x+222mm+40+Grit/d80/sd1790/p91880

 

But I did not have one

 

2. or a disc sander

 

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/060315300?da=1&TC=SRC-disc+sander

 

But again did not have one of these. But these would have given you a squarer edge

 

once flush with stock I used 200 and 400 grip wet and dry sand paper from Halfords do sand all marks from the flap disc out and polished it up. Then If I had any some wire wool to finish.

 

And this left it with a nice finish.

 

Just takes a bit of time and patience.

 

The plate holes for the pad were 80mm centres so my original pad would not fit so had to get a new one.

 

So got one of them ISIS green pads. There holes were at 80mm centre so just a case of screwing it on and that where I am at.

Now would I recommend doing this yes as worse case you can’t damage your gut so if it did go wrong you just end up buying another plate. And if you just take your time you should be fine. If I can do it with no experience then you should.

 

Now it has made a big difference to my mounting and gun fit for me!! It feels know end better!!

 

What I don’t know is, do I grind the but pad down or not??? It does not seem to cause a problem so should I just leave it or should I grind it down??

 

What do you recon?

 

If so how would you grind it down?

 

Thanks

Jamie

[Gordon R]

I'm having a bit of trouble reading the script, but the job itself looks excellent. Nice finish on the aluminium where it has been shaped.

 

Well done. :good: :good:

[Cosd]

Well I don’t think I did a bad job.

 

I have never worked with mettle before so it was a learning curve for me

 

I am not saying this is the right way but this is how I did it and what I would do differently.

 

I had to make the hole in the stock slightly bigger. So I did not want to put gun in vice! So wrapped stock in a towel and got my miss to put her weight on it while I chiselled the hole bigger. I was only making it a couple of mm bigger any bigger and I would have drilled it out.

 

I then put the plate on the stock centrally and marked the fixing holes. Then pre drilled to stop wood splitting and screwed the plate to the stock

 

I then scribed around the stock on the plat.

 

I put a towel in the vice to protect the plate and clamped it tight!

 

I used this to grind the plate down with

 

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Power+Tool+Accessories/Power+Sanding/Rhodius+Zirconium+Flap+Disc+115+x+222mm+40+Grit/d80/sd1790/p91880

 

The 40 and 80 grit 40 first then 80.

 

Now the only way is take your time and keep putting back on stock to check your progress!

 

And you can all ways take more of but you can’t put on so don’t get too carried away!!

 

Now if you look at these disks they slope and they are not flat so when I Had finished it had slightly bevelled the with at a slight angle but it looked ok and did not bother me.

 

Two ways I have been told.

 

1. Use a pillar drill with a flap wheel

 

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Power+Tool+Accessories/Power+Sanding/Rhodius+Zirconium+Flap+Disc+115+x+222mm+40+Grit/d80/sd1790/p91880

 

But I did not have one

 

2. or a disc sander

 

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/060315300?da=1&TC=SRC-disc+sander

 

But again did not have one of these. But these would have given you a squarer edge

 

once flush with stock I used 200 and 400 grip wet and dry sand paper from Halfords do sand all marks from the flap disc out and polished it up. Then If I had any some wire wool to finish.

 

And this left it with a nice finish.

 

Just takes a bit of time and patience.

 

The plate holes for the pad were 80mm centres so my original pad would not fit so had to get a new one.

 

So got one of them ISIS green pads. There holes were at 80mm centre so just a case of screwing it on and that where I am at.

Now would I recommend doing this yes as worse case you can’t damage your gut so if it did go wrong you just end up buying another plate. And if you just take your time you should be fine. If I can do it with no experience then you should.

 

Now it has made a big difference to my mounting and gun fit for me!! It feels know end better!!

 

What I don’t know is, do I grind the but pad down or not??? It does not seem to cause a problem so should I just leave it or should I grind it down??

 

What do you recon?

 

If so how would you grind it down?

 

Thanks

Jamie

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[Cosd]

Personally, I would wind the butt pad right back and scribe it against the plate mounted on the gun then repeat grinding and polishing process.

 

Nice job though!

[chady]

Thanks for reposting long text I do on word so I can use spell check then copy and past.

 

And it came out like that!!

 

And computers don't like me so I gave up lol

 

So what would you use to grind pad down same thing flap disk?

[Gordon R]

It would look slightly better with a trimmed down pad, but it is still an excellent effort.

 

I keep looking at it and thinking - if I had not sold the butt plate to you, would I have made as good a job of it? At best, I might have equalled it - but not bettered. :good:

Edited December 6, 2012 by Gordon R

[chady]

I am actually dyslexic so never done well with spelling an maths is even worse so all I have ever done is worked with my hands and I all ways like learning so I all ways give things a try

 

Thanks for the kind comments much appreciated