Land clearance question?

[wildfowler.250]

Now I'm probably quite lucky because I received an open ticket with my .270 at 18. But what I can't understand is where you see statements like "land cleared for .243" or similar. Now my take on it is that if land is suitable for a .243 then it is good for basically all the bigger calibers. There's not a time when I've had the .270 and with a lack of backstop thought,"if I had a .243 I could take the shot".

 

Surely land is either suitable or not? And you could always use high seats to help you out?

 

 

Is this more firearms bureaucracy or do you actually have a lot more lee-way with 'smaller' calibers?

 

A mate thinks the .270 is "too big" for the area we shoot but doesn't bat an eyelid about using a .243

 

 

Thoughts?

[moorvale55]

If land is deemed suitable for a .223, you can shoot that calibre and lesser calibres on it, likewise if suitable for .243 it's that calibre or less. You can't go over the calibre rated for the land.

[wildfowler.250]

Yeah but what I'm saying is, if its suitable for a .243 surely its just as suitable for a bigger caliber. You would still need a good back stop for a .243 anyway so why not allow bigger?

[CharlieT]

I think that you will find that when they clear a parcel of land they clear it for the caliber that the applicant is applying for.

[wildfowler.250]

I think that you will find that when they clear a parcel of land they clear it for the caliber that the applicant is applying for.

Ah I see, thanks

[houlsby]

its all aload of **** if you ask me.

 

no joke this, iv a bit of land that borders the m18 m62 junction on both sides, ones got a canal, a fishing pond complex, a motorway slip road, a housing estate, a train line and 2 farms, with no backstop at all, thats cleared upto .223 no conditions and i got that first shout on my ticket, not even a stiff word.

 

and the one on the other side borders a canal, but has the worlds biggest backstop on 3 sides, and thats "only just" cleared for 17hmr. apparently.

 

and, dont get me started on how its taken syp 4 months to do 2 land checks, and considering iv only phoned them three times about it, the bird on the phone speaks to you as if im being a pain in the ****!!

Edited April 1, 2013 by houlsby

[wildfowler.250]

its all aload of **** if you ask me.

 

no joke this, iv a bit of land that borders the m18 m62 junction on both sides, ones got a canal, a fishing pond complex, a motorway slip road, a housing estate, a train line and 2 farms, with no backstop at all, thats cleared upto .223 no conditions and i got that first shout on my ticket, not even a stiff word.

 

and the one on the other side borders a canal, but has the worlds biggest backstop on 3 sides, and thats "only just" cleared for 17hmr. apparently.

 

and, dont get me started on how its taken syp 4 months to do 2 land checks, and considering iv only phoned them three times about it, the bird on the phone speaks to you as if im being a pain in the ****!!

Yeah I don't understand it!

[Kes]

If you have an open ticket you can shoot it anywhere you think its safe - its just that the police can feel you have some' safe experience' if you have a rifle for a number of years (closed) with no complaints.

It has always been my view that firearms certificates approve the man not the rifle - its always possible to shoot dangerously with an air rifle or shotgun. Experience is always valuable and I'd be happy to be trained to be ' an approved firearms user ' after a course organised to provide the basic experience for all calibres. That said a logical limit of .308 would be sensible, covering all 'normal' hunting calibres.

If you were only a target shooter, the range defines the upper limit of calibre and a course is obligatory so why restrict ?

 

It some 40 odd years since i wrote a letter on this approach to the Chief Con of Cheshire. its still the same 'lottery' with almost no prospect of change except maybe to ALQ.

Hey Ho !