xxx.Morph.xxx Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 I'm after some opinions on the below slug recipe please (yes I do have slug conditions on my FAC ) Fiocchi 67mm hull with 616 primer26grain Vectan A1 3mm overshot card 20mm Fibre wad33gram Lyman Forster style slugfrangible disc (purely to stop the roll crimp tool from cutting into the top of the slug)Roll crimp down to 62mm The load is for range work practice at beween 30-50 meters with my Winchester SXP (pump action) Does it sound reasonable or should I buy a cheap single barrel & a piece of string to test Any advice appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 Save your money and send a batch to the 'Proof House' Always better to be safe than sorry. By putting a disc on top you will increase the pressure. Depth of roll will alter the pressure. Phone the Proof House in Brum for a proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxx.Morph.xxx Posted May 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 Cheers, any idea how much it costs to get a cartridge recipe proofed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 (edited) I've no idea of the current cost, as I used to work at well known sporting cartridge manufacturer and proofing was done on an hourly basis as well as any alteration to the tooling would also mean a re-proof, and made hundreds of thousands of slugs. This showed any gradual variation, also the powder batch variation would and could send the pressure way out of proof. When you do work up a recipe stick to it, and learn to shoot it. They are in Banbury Street, B5 5RH not far from the Dogs Home in New Canal Street. Give them a ring on 0121 643 3860 Edited May 23, 2013 by Paladin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxx.Morph.xxx Posted May 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 (edited) Many thanks, I'll give them a bell tomorrow once I get back from the range (only a .22LR day) Incidentally I used to work within spitting distance of the proof house in the late 80's however the landscape around there has changed somewhat since then. Edited May 23, 2013 by xxx.Morph.xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 Is it a listed load? Why not just use a listed load and components? A slug usually gives less pressure than a shot load. Most slug loads use a slower powder than a shot load to give a longer push to gain velocity. Using a standard shot load powder means vel will be down. Compensating by adding more of the same faster powder will raise pressures. U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 about £40 send in 10 weighed reloads. A slug usually gives less pressure than a shot load. Most slug loads use a slower powder than a shot load to give a longer push to gain velocity. Using a standard shot load powder means vel will be down. Compensating by adding more of the same faster powder will raise pressures. U. slugs, have the same potential for higher and lower pressures, it just depends on the recipe. i wouldnt nessasary say that slugs have lower pressures. most of the great ballistics where all the powder is used up efficiently, are often where the pressure is 95% of working pressure. thats also applicable to shot, reguardless of speed or payload. its true, most slug loads use slower powder, just to gain speed, but within pressure limits. adding more "faster type" powder to a recipe that all ready has a very healthy pressure, will just increase pressure for very little speed gain. dont forget there is a pressure variation too, that is rarely discussed. the data you create is also a verification of safety, and is also a check to see how healthy your load is. you can make a decision to increase or decrease the powder, for the next proofing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 Yes. :-) . U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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