Kes Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) I have read that these triggers (allegedly) are prone to occasional accidental discharge, if another part of the trigger mechanism is moved, e.g. the safety. The chance of a problem is small since I load just before calling/shooting with safety engaged and empty the gun before moving to the next stand. It is therefore almost always pointing at the ground when loaded Anyone experienced this or a similar problem with a Remington 700? Mine is .223 and now looking for a .308, it might just rule Remington out. ? Jewel and Timney seem to be the recommended replacements anyone any advice on the best and price to change? Many thanks, Kes Edited May 16, 2014 by Kes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) The "problem" with the original Walker design was that some dufus in the USA adjusted it out of the correct spec. then proceeded to have functioning issues/negligent discharges, etc. Nice $$$$ law suits then follow, so the tools in the accounting dept. at FreeDUMB Group decide to introduce the XM Pro trigger as a solution to a non problem! The original Walker triggers CAN be very easily & very safely adjusted from the factory 8lb-10lb setting. I did mine about 20 years ago & it's been as good as gold since. The XM Pro is NOT as adjustable, NOR is it any good as a base trigger when compared to the Walker. Add in the fact of the current trigger recall for the hastily introduced XMP unit, and make your own mind up Are you talking about the Walker or the XMP with regard to the safety related issue? Seems I have heard more about the latter being a genuine problem; IF not the case, then ALL the R700's would have had to be recalled for the Walker triggers to be replaced. You may be getting a line crossed here... As to aftermarket trigger units for anyone with an XMP - ANY trigger, including the previous Walker unit WILL be a huge improvement. Don't forget the newer RifleBasix triggers too Edited May 16, 2014 by saddler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 The original Remington triggers were brilliant as you could adjust travel, weight and sear engagement, the adjustment is still there but the screws are locktited with Krptonite. I tried every thing to free the screws of my 700, heat, kroll soaking etc. I fitted a Timney in the end, not a difficult procedure, took this off and replaced the old one when I sold the darn thing, have a tikka's now. Pm me if your interest in a hardly used second hand timney trigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted May 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 The "problem" with the original Walker design was that some dufus in the USA adjusted it out of the correct spec. then proceeded to have functioning issues/negligent discharges, etc. Nice $$$$ law suits then follow, so the tools in the accounting dept. at FreeDUMB Group decide to introduce the XM Pro trigger as a solution to a non problem! The original Walker triggers CAN be very easily & very safely adjusted from the factory 8lb-10lb setting. I did mine about 20 years ago & it's been as good as gold since. The XM Pro is NOT as adjustable, NOR is it any good as a base trigger when compared to the Walker. Add in the fact of the current trigger recall for the hastily introduced XMP unit, and make your own mind up Are you talking about the Walker or the XMP with regard to the safety related issue? Seems I have heard more about the latter being a genuine problem; IF not the case, then ALL the R700's would have had to be recalled for the Walker triggers to be replaced. You may be getting a line crossed here... As to aftermarket trigger units for anyone with an XMP - ANY trigger, including the previous Walker unit WILL be a huge improvement. Don't forget the newer RifleBasix triggers too Hi, no its the Walker trigger, the one with vertical lines running down the trigger pull itself. The XMP is a smooth faced trigger. I have no problems with my walker but IIRC an intended feature was removed from the original design despite costing pence in a cost-saving exercise at the factory. I have it fully adjusted and am fully aware of muzzle direction and safety, in fact i only release the safety when on target. However, I was trying to get a 'scale' to the potential problem. I take your point about that so, with little evidence of a safety problem and no experience myself of any,I will probably stick with the original. Redgum - many thanks for the offer wot sort of money are you after - with no apparent problems the £60-£70 for a new one could buy me other stuff ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Hi, no its the Walker trigger, the one with vertical lines running down the trigger pull itself. The XMP is a smooth faced trigger. I have no problems with my walker but IIRC an intended feature was removed from the original design despite costing pence in a cost-saving exercise at the factory. I have it fully adjusted and am fully aware of muzzle direction and safety, in fact i only release the safety when on target. However, I was trying to get a 'scale' to the potential problem. I take your point about that so, with little evidence of a safety problem and no experience myself of any,I will probably stick with the original. Redgum - many thanks for the offer wot sort of money are you after - with no apparent problems the £60-£70 for a new one could buy me other stuff ! My Timney came with the safety and cost £90 and was hoping to get around £50 for it but if you can get a new one for £60 I'd go for that. If your trigger weight is ok and you can shoot well with it why change, you should never rely on a trigger safety anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted May 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 My Timney came with the safety and cost £90 and was hoping to get around £50 for it but if you can get a new one for £60 I'd go for that. If your trigger weight is ok and you can shoot well with it why change, you should never rely on a trigger safety anyway. Very true but thank you for the offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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