MC Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 try and get a cartridge called BUFFALO SLUG, one big solin lump of lead and will kill a fox at 80 yards or so with one hell of a punch. Providing you have a FAC. no FAC is required, gunshops can sell them to you without you having a FAC license, your not allowed to buy single shot cartridges if your shotgun has a rifled barrel. and the only rifled barrels i know of are used for elephant shooting but not many of them around now. If a gunshop sell you these without you having an FAC then you are both breaking the law. As has already been established in this thread you cannot have a cartridge that has less than five shot bigger than .36" If a shotgun has a rifled barrel then it is a rifle. A shotgun is defined as a SMOOTHBORE gun having a barrel longer than 24". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmullis286 Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 try and get a cartridge called BUFFALO SLUG, one big solin lump of lead and will kill a fox at 80 yards or so with one hell of a punch. Providing you have a FAC. no FAC is required, gunshops can sell them to you without you having a FAC license, your not allowed to buy single shot cartridges if your shotgun has a rifled barrel. and the only rifled barrels i know of are used for elephant shooting but not many of them around now. If a gunshop sell you these without you having an FAC then you are both breaking the law. As has already been established in this thread you cannot have a cartridge that has less than five shot bigger than .36" If a shotgun has a rifled barrel then it is a rifle. A shotgun is defined as a SMOOTHBORE gun having a barrel longer than 24". i've been using the slugs for over 6 years now and had my shotgun certificate since i was 15 and not had any problems from my gunshop which i've been using since i had my certificate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 That doesn't make it legal. Using slugs without an FAC is Illegal end of story, unless they are being used under a police exemption certificate at an approved club, but they must not be taken away from that club. I can buy slugs at Bisley as I am a full member of the NRA but I cannot legally take them away from the camp. In the same way I can hire any firearm I like out of their armoury to use on their ranges without having a space on my FAC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 I've never heard of Buffalo Slugs but presuming they are 12 bore solid slugs for use with a 12 bore smooth barreled shotgun then you definitely are breaking the law as is your gun shop by selling them to you. Solid slugs are only authorised for purchase and use on a FAC and I doubt anyone has fox as a condition on their FAC. Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auto culto Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 As taken from Home Office Guidance document, Chapter 2 Page 7: iii) Shot gun cartridges A shot gun certificate is not required to possess or acquire shot gun cartridges containing five or more shot, none of which exceeds .36 inch in diameter. All ordinary shot cartridges are covered by this description. However, a shot gun certificate(or firearm certificate authorising possession of a section 1 shot gun) is normally required to purchase shot gun cartridges. All single bulleted ammunition, for example solid slug, spherical ball or projectiles for birdscaring equipment, is subject to the requirement for a firearm certificate. Brad Just a quick question but it says none of the shot must exceed .36inch. Does this law apply to all shotgun calibers is is it specific to 12g. if so (if i,m reading this right) it would be legal to use a solid slug with 4 no9 shot behind in a .410 ?. The .36inch equates to a 9mm .410 sabot slug.? Can anyone answer this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellier0437 Posted April 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Hellier0437 "you make out that this is a devious and underhand question. you fail to notice that so called "loopholes" in the law will have been purposfully left open by the government. It is not the case that they have simply missed it as this would have come up in any debate on the matter". This is possibly the most stupid statement I have ever seen on a gun forum. I say possibly, because there might be someone more stupid out there. I hope not. i'm sorry, but my above statement is correct and is, in fact the basis for an aweful lot of tax cases. The majority of such cases are to decide whether the accused is illegaly not paying or refusing to pay tax, or is simply working within a loophole of the laws of the country. If the latter is the case then their activities are completely legal and have nothing underhand or suspicious about them. The laws that govern us are (suprisingly) drawn up by well payed and skilled individuals who will doubtless know about the situation under scutiny. it is these laws and these laws only that govern us. if a loophole of any sort has been left in the legislation, this is not the concern of the population of the country(s) to which they apply. There is absolutely nothing wrong with such loopholes being exploited, as if there was cause for concern within parliament, ammendments could and would be made if that was the will of the majority. Anyway, i was not intending to cause any trouble, simply to find out what the law says on the matter and whether such a round would be usefull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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