naddan28 Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Just wondered, there is a few of us kent lads on here and am considering applying for a fac alongside my SGC and I only want a rimfire. It would come in handy if I could use a rf for foxes as well (as get the odd one on my permission & would keep the farmer happy!) so just wondered if any of you kent lot know the stance of our FLO on rf's for foxes? Thanks lads, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invector Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Northants police will OK .17HMR for fox but not .22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naddan28 Posted April 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Thanks, I just wondered what the Kent FLO's views where all. Hopefully D2D, Cranfield or LB will be along shortly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Have you called your local BASC office to ask them? They are in touch with the FLO's in all constabularies on a regular basis so they would be a good point of contact. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naddan28 Posted April 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Have you called your local BASC office to ask them? They are in touch with the FLO's in all constabularies on a regular basis so they would be a good point of contact. David Nope not a member of basc have not joined yet as only been doing some informal air rifle plinking on family farm althou obv will join when get larger weapons and some cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusk2dawn Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Just wondered, there is a few of us kent lads on here and am considering applying for a fac alongside my SGC and I only want a rimfire. It would come in handy if I could use a rf for foxes as well (as get the odd one on my permission & would keep the farmer happy!) so just wondered if any of you kent lot know the stance of our FLO on rf's for foxes? Thanks lads, Dan Hi Dan, just checked the wording on my open cert and it says the .22 semi auto is for "shooting vermin in connection with the management of any estate, other wildlife" it goes on to say the .223 "shall be used for fox and vermin". In discussing the .223 with my FAO I mentioned that I thought the .22 was limited with regard to Fox, he agreed, so I had him to support my application for the.223, he went on to liken it to hitting the Fox with a hammer or a sledge hammer. Both will kill but one makes a better job of it. Hope this helps you, TIP.. when you apply for your cert go for a mod at the same time or it will cost you extra later. D2D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulboy Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 Naddan - Local position is ".22LR maximum range of 50 yards for foxes" that was 4 weeks ago from our area FEO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilDot Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 My hmr states vermin and fox. while my .22 states vermin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naddan28 Posted April 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 Just wondered, there is a few of us kent lads on here and am considering applying for a fac alongside my SGC and I only want a rimfire. It would come in handy if I could use a rf for foxes as well (as get the odd one on my permission & would keep the farmer happy!) so just wondered if any of you kent lot know the stance of our FLO on rf's for foxes? Thanks lads, Dan Hi Dan, just checked the wording on my open cert and it says the .22 semi auto is for "shooting vermin in connection with the management of any estate, other wildlife" it goes on to say the .223 "shall be used for fox and vermin". In discussing the .223 with my FAO I mentioned that I thought the .22 was limited with regard to Fox, he agreed, so I had him to support my application for the.223, he went on to liken it to hitting the Fox with a hammer or a sledge hammer. Both will kill but one makes a better job of it. Hope this helps you, TIP.. when you apply for your cert go for a mod at the same time or it will cost you extra later. D2D Thanks D2D, I have already picked on the tip with the amount of PW guys having to get varaitions (at a costs ) for mods! Soulboy thanks for that info on my area's flo's view with .22lr and foxes. Just being young and with no FAC weapon exp (is there a local range?) I feel I will only get the one rifle which will be a rimmie but if I could use it on the odd fox which makes an appearance on the farms i shoot (they have conservation area's with pheasants) then I could save the farmer a lot of hassle and get the ******, thus keeping him happy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 Naddan, Even if you are not a BASC member I am sure your local chap would be happy to give you some basic advice! David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusk2dawn Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 Just wondered, there is a few of us kent lads on here and am considering applying for a fac alongside my SGC and I only want a rimfire. It would come in handy if I could use a rf for foxes as well (as get the odd one on my permission & would keep the farmer happy!) so just wondered if any of you kent lot know the stance of our FLO on rf's for foxes? Thanks lads, Dan Hi Dan, just checked the wording on my open cert and it says the .22 semi auto is for "shooting vermin in connection with the management of any estate, other wildlife" it goes on to say the .223 "shall be used for fox and vermin". In discussing the .223 with my FAO I mentioned that I thought the .22 was limited with regard to Fox, he agreed, so I had him to support my application for the.223, he went on to liken it to hitting the Fox with a hammer or a sledge hammer. Both will kill but one makes a better job of it. Hope this helps you, TIP.. when you apply for your cert go for a mod at the same time or it will cost you extra later. D2D Thanks D2D, I have already picked on the tip with the amount of PW guys having to get varaitions (at a costs ) for mods! Soulboy thanks for that info on my area's flo's view with .22lr and foxes. Just being young and with no FAC weapon exp (is there a local range?) I feel I will only get the one rifle which will be a rimmie but if I could use it on the odd fox which makes an appearance on the farms i shoot (they have conservation area's with pheasants) then I could save the farmer a lot of hassle and get the ******, thus keeping him happy! Dan you cant walk around with a .22 under your arm on the off chance that a Fox might just be about, look at the broader picture, vermin control is THE word, fistly and most importantly do you have access to "rifle friendly" shooting land, if not then wait until you do before applying or they will not entertain you. You are by right entitled to a shottie so I would go down that road first and keep some BB,s in your pocket. That will go a long way towards your cred when you do apply, take a look at your land from the FAO,s outlook, is it safe? Is there sufficient backdrop? If shoot in Cabbage land I doubt it. Get a nice OU, crack some clays, do some pigeon shooting then 12months later apply if your land is up to the mark. D2D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naddan28 Posted April 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 Just wondered, there is a few of us kent lads on here and am considering applying for a fac alongside my SGC and I only want a rimfire. It would come in handy if I could use a rf for foxes as well (as get the odd one on my permission & would keep the farmer happy!) so just wondered if any of you kent lot know the stance of our FLO on rf's for foxes? Thanks lads, Dan Hi Dan, just checked the wording on my open cert and it says the .22 semi auto is for "shooting vermin in connection with the management of any estate, other wildlife" it goes on to say the .223 "shall be used for fox and vermin". In discussing the .223 with my FAO I mentioned that I thought the .22 was limited with regard to Fox, he agreed, so I had him to support my application for the.223, he went on to liken it to hitting the Fox with a hammer or a sledge hammer. Both will kill but one makes a better job of it. Hope this helps you, TIP.. when you apply for your cert go for a mod at the same time or it will cost you extra later. D2D Thanks D2D, I have already picked on the tip with the amount of PW guys having to get varaitions (at a costs ) for mods! Soulboy thanks for that info on my area's flo's view with .22lr and foxes. Just being young and with no FAC weapon exp (is there a local range?) I feel I will only get the one rifle which will be a rimmie but if I could use it on the odd fox which makes an appearance on the farms i shoot (they have conservation area's with pheasants) then I could save the farmer a lot of hassle and get the ******, thus keeping him happy! Dan you cant walk around with a .22 under your arm on the off chance that a Fox might just be about, look at the broader picture, vermin control is THE word, fistly and most importantly do you have access to "rifle friendly" shooting land, if not then wait until you do before applying or they will not entertain you. You are by right entitled to a shottie so I would go down that road first and keep some BB,s in your pocket. That will go a long way towards your cred when you do apply, take a look at your land from the FAO,s outlook, is it safe? Is there sufficient backdrop? If shoot in Cabbage land I doubt it. Get a nice OU, crack some clays, do some pigeon shooting then 12months later apply if your land is up to the mark. D2D Fair play that was my orginal plan but I thought might as well go conterminous with the fac as well. As for walking around with the 22lr under my arm I think we have are wires crossed!! I was planning on a FAC rifle to help me nail the corvids which are out of my air rifle range at present. What I meant is should I be out and about shooting corvids and a shot on a fox presents itself that I could actually take it legally. By taking the odd fox would keep the farmer happy and we all know happy farmers = good (possibly more) permission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 kents take on all firearms related things change with the tides. Give it your best shot, a letter from a land owner who'm requires quiet but humaine control of the occasional fox whilst taking care of his rabbits will go a long way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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