shootingmike Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 I have a lovely Franchi Raptor 712 3". I bought some steel cartridges yesterday and it says on the box how my gun should have the fleur de lys stamped on it to show it's steel proofed. I have stripped my gun down and there are all sorts of stars, circles, numbers etc. but no fleur. Is it just because the marks are Italian or what? Of course, one would expect a 3inch magnum semi auto made by a beretta company to be steel proofed but who knows? I've tried a google search on Italian proof marks but all I can ascertain is that PSF (which is one of he things one the barrel) means it's proofed for nitro powder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codling99 Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 i wouldnd of thought it s steel proofed,unless gun is designed for wildfowling,long barrels,3 and half inch chambered. http://www.gunproof.com/Proofing/proofing.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 I just found this link on the Franchi USA website... http://www.franchiusa.com/customer-service/faq.tpl ...sounds like you can! It may be worth asking the customer services dept though, if they're anything like the Beretta customer support then they'll help you out very quickly :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingmike Posted July 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Yeah, I found that yesterday but it's a bit of a generalisation isn't it. I want to be 100% sure before I have any confidence! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingmike Posted July 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Mine has the PSF on it and two stars, but acording to that link it still doesn't say anything about steel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Franchi are distributed by GMK right? Give them a ring and they will answer any questions you have. They're very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingmike Posted July 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 I think that's the next place to try. I'll ring them in the morning. I know it seems daft but I'm just assuming it's steel proof as it's 3" chambers with a reversible piston for "heavy" loads up to 56gram. As already stated, there are loads of markings, stars, PSF, numbers etc. but nothing obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08shooter Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 im near sure the raptor is steel proofed i know defo steel is marked on my chokes,i ll have a look and post on mon night i can t see them selling a new gun and it not steel proofed in this day and age Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingmike Posted July 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Bloody good point! I forgot about that, it says steel on the chokes doesn't it. Still, I'd like to see proof of it on the barrels! I'll update once I've spoke with GMK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingmike Posted July 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Spoke to GMK this morning. It IS steel proofed. That solves that then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingmike Posted July 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Further update and important for raptor owners. Although it's steel proofed, they've told me the rating of the gun is 1176 bar. The solway steel I've bought say 1370 bar on the box, so I won't shoot them. Therefore, despite being a "steel shot proofed" 3 inch gun, you can't shoot 3 inch steel it appears. Disgusting. Interestingly, the remington nitro steel 3" that the father in law just bought actually say "Max 1050 bar" on the cases so they must be ok. How come they are so light on pressure compared to hull, express etc that all seem to say 1370 bar? What I'm now trying to find out is the bar rating of Bismuth 3" 42 BB's. They say 4 tons per square inch, or 100kg. What's that in bar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 What I'm now trying to find out is the bar rating of Bismuth 3" 42 BB's. They say 4 tons per square inch, or 100kg. What's that in bar? 1155 G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingmike Posted July 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Thank you graham, Looks like it bismuth 3" 42 bb's and the remington sportsman steel 3" for me then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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