Has anybody body tried .223 wsm

[Fleabag]

.223 WSSM The Super Short Magnum round is Winchester's new, short, fat cartridge that was designed to exceed the same company's own Short Magnum series. Launched in 2003, the new 1.76 in WSSM cases are 0.47 inch shorter than the WSM cases, necked for .224- and .243- calibre bullets, while maintaining the same case-head and body-diameter specifications as the .300 WSM. In the Supreme line, the .223 WSSM has a 55-grain Ballistic Silvertip at a normal 3,850fps muzzle velocity - faster than the .22-250's 3,680fps. In the Super X line there's a 55-grain Pointed Soft Point at 3,850fps and a 64-grain PowerPoint at 3,600fps. The WSSM shoots flatter and hits harder than its rivals, delivering 1,147ft/lb at 200yds compared to the .22-250's 861ft/lb and the .223 Rem's 648ft/lb with the same 55gr bullet.

[markbivvy]

.223 WSSM The Super Short Magnum round is Winchester's new, short, fat cartridge that was designed to exceed the same company's own Short Magnum series. Launched in 2003, the new 1.76 in WSSM cases are 0.47 inch shorter than the WSM cases, necked for .224- and .243- calibre bullets, while maintaining the same case-head and body-diameter specifications as the .300 WSM. In the Supreme line, the .223 WSSM has a 55-grain Ballistic Silvertip at a normal 3,850fps muzzle velocity - faster than the .22-250's 3,680fps. In the Super X line there's a 55-grain Pointed Soft Point at 3,850fps and a 64-grain PowerPoint at 3,600fps. The WSSM shoots flatter and hits harder than its rivals, delivering 1,147ft/lb at 200yds compared to the .22-250's 861ft/lb and the .223 Rem's 648ft/lb with the same 55gr bullet.

 

 

burns a lot of powder for 223 thats still not roe deer legal in england.

and the factory round price makes your eyes water.

[WeihrauchPower]

burns a lot of powder for 223 thats still not roe deer legal in england.

and the factory round price makes your eyes water.

 

I have one in .223 and can't fault it. It shoots sub M.O.A and packs a real punch. The ammo is half the price of ammo in the U.K but it is still considered expensive here. I think most on here would cry if they saw the price of centrefire/rimfire ammo in Australia .

There is a whole forum dedicated to the WSSMs.

 

http://www.wssmzone.com/main/default.aspx

 

Great round but i wouldn't of bothered with one in the U.K. Some of the propertys i shoot on here are so flat you can see unobstructed for a few kilometres with only irrigation dams and banks so most shots are taken from 200-250 yds. For this i chose a flat shooting round and after weighing up the .22-250 and .223 WSSM i chose the latter.

Heres a pic to show you.

 

 

Left to right- .300 Win Mag, .223 WSSM 55gr Super X, .223 WSSM 55gr Supreme Balistic Silvertip, .30-30 160gr Hornady Leverlution, .30-30 160gr AX Soft Point.

 

[Fleabag]

.223 WSSM The Super Short Magnum round is Winchester's new, short, fat cartridge that was designed to exceed the same company's own Short Magnum series. Launched in 2003, the new 1.76 in WSSM cases are 0.47 inch shorter than the WSM cases, necked for .224- and .243- calibre bullets, while maintaining the same case-head and body-diameter specifications as the .300 WSM. In the Supreme line, the .223 WSSM has a 55-grain Ballistic Silvertip at a normal 3,850fps muzzle velocity - faster than the .22-250's 3,680fps. In the Super X line there's a 55-grain Pointed Soft Point at 3,850fps and a 64-grain PowerPoint at 3,600fps. The WSSM shoots flatter and hits harder than its rivals, delivering 1,147ft/lb at 200yds compared to the .22-250's 861ft/lb and the .223 Rem's 648ft/lb with the same 55gr bullet.

 

 

burns a lot of powder for 223 thats still not roe deer legal in england.

and the factory round price makes your eyes water.

Thanks

[Oly]

Fleabag, another thing to consider at those speeds is barrel wear. 22-250's can be wearing enough, with some wearing out after only a couple of thousand rounds - I imagine the .223 WSSM putting out that much power would be even worse...so sounds quite expensive overall. Besides - they look weird!

 

Great round but i wouldn't of bothered with one in the U.K. Some of the propertys i shoot on here are so flat you can see unobstructed for a few kilometres with only irrigation dams and banks so most shots are taken from 200-250 yds. For this i chose a flat shooting round and after weighing up the .22-250 and .223 WSSM i chose the latter.

 

Weihrauch - having sure a flat shooting round in such a flat area is exactly want you don't want, no? Backstop Surely for a more loopy round and knowledge of the distances/capability of the round would then give you a better idea that the round would land in the distance you can see.

Edited January 18, 2008 by Oly

[WeihrauchPower]

Fleabag, another thing to consider at those speeds is barrel wear. 22-250's can be wearing enough, with some wearing out after only a couple of thousand rounds - I imagine the .223 WSSM putting out that much power would be even worse...so sounds quite expensive overall. Besides - they look weird!

 

Great round but i wouldn't of bothered with one in the U.K. Some of the propertys i shoot on here are so flat you can see unobstructed for a few kilometres with only irrigation dams and banks so most shots are taken from 200-250 yds. For this i chose a flat shooting round and after weighing up the .22-250 and .223 WSSM i chose the latter.

 

Weihrauch - having sure a flat shooting round in such a flat area is exactly want you don't want, no? Backstop Surely for a more loopy round and knowledge of the distances/capability of the round would then give you a better idea that the round would land in the distance you can see.

 

Sorry to laugh mate but the property in the picture is vast to say the least. There is no chance of hitting ANYTHING in most directions (the ones i would shoot in), there are hedges and trees every few kilometres apart.

I think you've been couped up in little England too long mate.

Edited January 18, 2008 by WeihrauchPower

[WeihrauchPower]

Just a reminder Oly!

 

[mry716]

I have tried all the WSSM and WSM cartridges and found them great rounds. They all perform better than expected and are now my rifles of choice. After much deliberation I sold on the 223 and the 243 keeping only the 25WSSM but that was certainly not because they were unsatisfactory. (I presently still have two 300WSMs and 325WSMs though)

 

I agree with ammo being expensive you need to reload but the rifles are so cheap - a new Winchester was on offer for £299 recently so if you can find one at that price it really provides quite a lot of free shooting despite the factory ammo costs.

 

My dies etc went with the rifle but if you get one I still have a couple of hundred new Federal cases I will sell you cheaply.

Edited January 18, 2008 by mry716

[mry716]

There is a whole forum dedicated to the WSSMs.

 

http://www.wssmzone.com/main/default.aspx

 

 

Thanks for the site - not seen that before which is a great shame as at first glance it looks excellent.

M

Edited January 18, 2008 by mry716