kafmax Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Hi all, Read some useful tips and suggestions by members u all seem v.helpful. Well, I'm actually new comer in hunting sport, and i would like to ask you couple of questions... I'm 23yrs old and had little expericene of hunting when i was 11yr old, So now i'm soo crazy about serious hunting again as a side hobby. 1. I want to buy Powerful Air rifle for shooting down "Wood Pigeon's, megpies and feral pigeons" which one do u recommend i should buy + accessories. My budget is £250 max. 2. May sound odd but i get alot of Quarry in my back garden and neighours are friendly too, Do you think its fine by law to shoot Quarry in the garden instead of going far away in the countryside for hunting?? 3. Do you need License before shooting etc?? I wouldn't mind buying expensive Pro Air Refile even if I'm not on Pro level. Look forward hearing from you soon, Many thanks, Kafmax! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharp_shooter Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Welcome to the forum..... 1) Many people will give you suggestions on guns and among the most popular will probably be the BSA Lightening. This is cheap, accurate,full uk power. 2) As to shooting in your garden, Not a problem aslong as all pellets stay within your garden boundaries and any quarry shot lands within your boundaries (presuming its a pigeon or other bird). 3) The legal limit on airguns is 12ftlbs at the muzzle(in britain). Anything over that requires an FAC (fire arms certificate). Legal airgun quarry in britain is: Pigeon, Rabbit, Rat, Crow, Jackdaw, Rook, Magpie, Jay and Squirrel (only grey). Their are others but those are pests best taken care of by professionals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millo2 Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Welcome to the forum.....1) Many people will give you suggestions on guns and among the most popular will probably be the BSA Lightening. This is cheap, accurate,full uk power. 2) As to shooting in your garden, Not a problem aslong as all pellets stay within your garden boundaries and any quarry shot lands within your boundaries (presuming its a pigeon or other bird). 3) The legal limit on airguns is 12ftlbs at the muzzle(in britain). Anything over that requires an FAC (fire arms certificate). Legal airgun quarry in britain is: Pigeon, Rabbit, Rat, Crow, Jackdaw, Rook, Magpie, Jay and Squirrel (only grey). Their are others but those are pests best taken care of by professionals. Can't you also shoot Hares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharp_shooter Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Yes, but in my area there aren't many so i leave them alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millo2 Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Yes, but in my area there aren't many so i leave them alone. Get yourself to my neck of the woods, loads of them, close to outnumbering rabbiots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafmax Posted July 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 sharp_shooter: Thanks for your valuable reply to my questions, and btw today i got meself "Cometa 300 .177 Rifle" with "Crosman Powapell Pointed pellets .177" http://www.airsportdirect.com/acatalog/Ammo.html I don't know if thats any good for serious hunting quarrys in the garden. Cuz I'm not soo happy about .177 air guns. Would you say .22 rifle is perfect for shooting Pegions and other birds. I still have the choice to return this Cometa 300 cal.177 back to my dealer and order .22! http://www.a1guns.co.uk/lightening.htm Found information on BSA Lightening so would this be better than Cometa 300 .22 if i went for this?? Later on after I got addicted to hunting quarrys and improved my hunting skills I'd like to move onto pre-charaged BSA SuperTEN mk2 rifle. Many thanks and look forward hearing from you, Kafmax London. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 6 words you get what you pay for bsa is a better manufacturer than cometa its entirely upto you what caliber you go for if you hit the vital areas with any caliber the target will go down at the moment i have a weirhauch hw97k .177 but im thinking of getting eithe rthe same gun in .22 or a bsa lightning it depends what amount of money i can raise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 of 5 Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Firstly you can NOT shoot birds in your back garden. Even if they are a pest species as defined by defra you need a good reason to shoot them. Read the DEFRA licence properly. A good reason would be crop protection on a farm. That excuse will NOT suffice for your garden. The RSPCA recently took a man to court and successfully prosecuted him for doing just that!!!! Secondly Hares are not legal airgun quarry. Although a 12 ft/lb rifle will depatch them they are too big to guarantee a kill every time. Also Hares are game. Game requires a licence and has a season. Either learn the law or leave the guns alone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernyha Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Firstly you can NOT shoot birds in your back garden. Even if they are a pest species as defined by defra you need a good reason to shoot them. I always have and always will shoot at magpies in my garden when a suitable shot presents itself. If anyone wanted a "good reason" for me doing so, i would just describe the number of times i have seen them attacking the nests of the many song birds that use my garden. The guy who was prosecuted for shooting starlings in his garden was deliberatly decoying them in and when taken to court did not offer any excuse or defence leaving the magistrate no option but find in favour of the RSPCA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 of 5 Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Protecting song birds is a good reason and if you have a sufficiently large garden to justify this then fine. I would suggest that the vast majority of garden shooters would not be able to find one songbirds nest in their garden to use such an excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LameDuck Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 During the summer i shoot pigeons in the back garden to stop them stripping my veggies. and before somoene says use a net! I've tried and the ******* get under it. have had them ripping nets out of the ground before! I also shoot maggies and crow out the back beacause of song bird damage. and i shoot rats because I have rabbits and they go after the food. I also shoot the odd squirrel which thinks its fun to kill my apple trees!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharp_shooter Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Im confused now. I read somewhere about 8 months ago that you can shoot at legal quarry in your garden aslong as the pellet remains in your boundaries. I cannot remember where i got this information from. Have the laws changed some time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpies are gay Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 Thats a bit dumb, why cant you shoot vermin in your own garden! Its your land, and if there doing damage to your vegitables then you have a wright, last year we had rabbits eating our vegitables and stuff and we shot them, and the squirrils which rip the bark off your nice looking trees aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernyha Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 Thats a bit dumb, why cant you shoot vermin in your own garden! You can shoot vermin in your own garden, you just have to keep to the rules and they are that your pellet must not leave the boundry of your property. In the last month i have shot a woodpigeon,two magpies and a grey squirrel in mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharp_shooter Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 In the last month i have taken 2 squirrels, 3 carrion crows, 2 pigeons and a magpie out of mine :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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