relivingmyyouth Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 (edited) I have been pellet testing again. Can anyone give me an accurate weight for a .22 SMK spitfire pointed pellet? Have searched all over the web but can't find weight anywhere. Wouldn't like to give unfair advantage by getting the weights wrong !!! WEBLEY AND WEIHRAUCH RESULTS NOW POSTED Edited March 8, 2008 by relivingmyyouth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Sam Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 domed .177 7.9 grains .22 14.7 grains spitfire pointed .177 7.7 grains .22 13.0 grains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relivingmyyouth Posted February 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Thanks Big Sam. Where did you get that from ? Anyone got any problem with that info? Might cause big issues with wot we all think might be the best pellets. Hav currently got 47 different tins from £2.30 to £16.50 for a tin. So far only tested through Cometa 400 but guess wot comes out on top. Watch this space... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveieP Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 The answer will probably be different for every type of gun. I've got an underlever that will group passably well with much whatever you put down the spout. However, different weights of pellet will affect the point of aim. AA Fields & Accupels seem to work well in most guns (16g & 14.3 G respectively) but don't seem to move the point of aim that much if you switch from one to the other. I'm not automatically assuming that the SMK ammo is pants (it may work for you) but the majority of comments I've read, from those that tried them are that they are....err...inconsistent. Post your results, I've got a mate with a Cometa Fenix who would be intersted, & so would I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relivingmyyouth Posted February 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 your underwear assumption is basically accurate. It just happens that these pellets come out my barrel faster and with more power than any other pellet I've tried. Unfortunatley, once it's left the barrel is when the trouble starts. Couldn't hit a barn door at point blank. I dont know about 5p @ 50yds.. more like five pounds at fifty inches.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveieP Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 If you're desperate to try something cheap, pointy & comes out "a bit lively" give marksman pointed a try(14.3g?).LOL Seem to make a bit of a hiss as they travel, but boy do they arrive! You may be able to get them to group reasonably, despite the ballistic inefficiency of being pointed. A lot better on the pointy front are the AA Hunters @ 16g & a slightly blunted point, group nearly as well as AA Fields. When all's said, domes will probably be more consistent. Pays yer money & takes yer choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relivingmyyouth Posted February 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 Okay. Here's what I've found with My .22 Cometa 400 Fenix. New July last. Fired about 3500 pellets. Combro 625 MK4 chrono. Targets at 15m shooting off padded rest. Dry and sunny, no wind. Figures: weight, velocity in feet per sec, power in ft/lbs and a grouping score from 10 down to 7. 10 being sub inch group.7 being outside 3'' group allowing for 'duff shots'. (yes there were plenty!!) 10 of each fired, Napier Lubed, last 5 recorded and average used here. All pellets listed in descending order (with their weights in grains) based on score. If you want all the facts and figures PM me and I'll email the spreadsheet. SMK Spitfires Point 13g 670.2 12.97 7......H&N Hollowpoint 12.7g 658.2 12.13 9 .....RWS Hobby Flat 11.9g 644.2 10.97 10 Bisley Practice 13.8g 621.4 11.84 7....Milbro Jet 13.4g 618.4 11.39 10....Defiant (5.48) 14g 612 11.66 10....Dynamic SN2 12.9g 613 10.43 10 Bisley L/R Gold 14g 11.62 10....Defiant (5.50) 14g 606.8 11.42 9....Milbro Caledonian 13.3g 607.8 10.93 8....Marksman Dome 14g 606.6 11.46 7 Defiant (5.52) 14g 600.8 11.22 10....Crosman PowaPell 14.3g 601.8 11.52 8....Milbro TwinRing 14.3g 598.6 11.37 10 RWS Superpoint Extra 14.5g 598.4 11.54 8....RWS Superdome 14.5g 597.2 11.49 9....Weihrauch F & T Special 15g 591.6 11.67 10 Eley Wasp(5.5) 14.6g 590.6 11.33 9....Eley Wasp(5.6) 14.6g 589.8 11.3 8....Crosman Verminpell 14.3g 589.8 11.06 8....Marksman Point 15g 588.2 11.54 8 Crosman Premier 14.3g 587.6 10.98 9....H&N Field Target Trophy 15.6g 587.4 11.97 8....Webley Hustler 12.3g 588.8 9.48 9 Daystate FT (5.51) 15.9g 584.6 12.1 10....Air Arms Field 16.4g 585.2 12.5 9....RWS Superfield 15.9g 584.2 12.1 9....Air Arms Hunter 16.4g 583 12.4 8 Daystate FT (5.52) 15.9g 582 11.96 9....Crosman Accupell 14.3g 579.6 10.68 7....JSB Exact Diablo 15.9g 574.6 11.67 9 RWS Super H Point 14.2g 573.8 10.39 10....Bisley Superfield 15g 567.8 10.75 10....H&N Diablo Sport 13.8g 570.6 9.98 8 Nickerson Mag point 12.6g 570.2 9.12 9....Logun Penetrator 16g 561.2 11.19 10....H&N Silhouette 16.4g 560.4 11.45 9....BSA Elite 13.8g 560.2 9.63 10 BSA Huntsman 16.2g 555.4 11.1 10....BSA Storm 15.4g 557 10.62 8....Napier Target 15.5g 541.4 10.1 9....Bisley Premier 17g 536.6 10.9 9 H&N Copperpoint 16.2g 534.8 10.29 9....Napier Hunter 15.4g 528.8 9.58 8....Bisley Pest Control 18.2g 475.2 9.13 8....Weihrauch Magnum 21.2g 437.4 9.02 8 Bisley Magnum 21.4g 404.2 7.78 8 Conclusions 1) you don't necessarily get what you pay for.....If only Spitfires were accurate !!! 2) If you think reading it is boring, try shooting it. 3) 7 pellets put me the wrong side of the law and only 14 were deadly accurate 4) Sub 12 springers don't like magnums For this gun I'll use the Milbro Jet for hunting and the RWS Hobby for Target. When I 've put the top15 pellets through the next gun( My Webley Stingray XS) I'll post the results to demonstrate how different the results can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsy Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 wow thats some hardcore testing right there! Don't fancy doing it with my hw100 do you? Cheers for the results though very interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Sam Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 SMK Spitfires Point 13g 670.2 12.97FPE......H&N Hollowpoint 12.7g 658.2 12.13FPE That's over the legal limit of 12.00FPE. Not the best choice of pellets then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relivingmyyouth Posted February 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 SMK Spitfires Point 13g 670.2 12.97FPE......H&N Hollowpoint 12.7g 658.2 12.13FPE That's over the legal limit of 12.00FPE. Not the best choice of pellets then. 'Buyer Beware' and all that !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relivingmyyouth Posted March 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Webley Stingray 2 XS results. 3 months old. fired less than 500 pellets SMK Spitfires 13g 651.6 12.26 8....H&N Hollowpoint 12.7g 648.4 14 9...RWS Hobby Flat 11.9g 648 11.13 8 ...Dynamic SN2 12.9g 619.6 11.01 7 Defiant 5.48 14g 611 11.53 10.... Bisley Practice 13.8g 610.6 11.43 9.... Milbro Caledonian 13.3g 609.8 11.0 10... Defiant 5.50 14g 606.4 11.43 10... Milbro Jet 13.4g 605.4 10.92 7...Marksman Dome 14g 596 11.05 9... Bisley L/R Gold 14g 591 10.87 10... H&N Field Tar Trophy 15.6g 588.6 12.02 9 Weihrauch Field Target 15g 588.8 11.56 8...Eley Wasp 5.5 14.6g 587.4 11.18 9....Crossman Premier 14.3g 584.8 10.87 9... Crosman Accupell 14.3g 583.8 10.84 9...Crosman Powapell 14.3g 568.8 10.28 9... RWS Superfield 15.9g 564 11.29 9... Air Arms Hunter 16.4g 560.4 11.45 10 BSA Elite 13.8g 552.2 9.36 8 Bisley premier 17g 532.6 10.69 7 21 different types of pellet. 3 went FAC and only 5 were deadly accurate. In this gun, I'll use the Defiant 5.48 and the H&N Hollowpoints as this is mainly used for Hunting. I'll post the Weihrauch results soon. I'm going to sell the Webley and possibly the Weihrauch to finance a multishot PCP I can't decide between S410, Webley Raider 10, Falcon Raptor or the HW100S which is just so damned heavy it puts me off........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveieP Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Interesting stuff. Particularly the insignificant difference betwean the Accupels & Premiers in terms of price versus performance i.e one being double the price of the other & nothing to tell betwean them. Those AA Hunters seem to have the right balance of accuracy & power for some general varmint dispatching. Mind you, I don't view them as a true pointed pellet on account of being a bit blunt-nosed. Must have cost you a small fortune, but now you can make an informed choice based on price, performance & purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relivingmyyouth Posted March 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Okay, now it's the turn of the Weihrauch... HW77k. 6 months old, around 2000 pellets, Chambers Ultra kitted ..... Heavy, loud, kicks like a mule but you just have to admire the build and the accuracy... Highest overall score to lowest. Top 26 of 52 but I havn't tested them all through this gun RWS Hobby flat, Dynamic SN2, H&N Hollowpoint, SMK Spitfire Point, Bisley Practice, Webley Harrier, Milbro Jet, Milbro Caledonian, AGS Elite dome, Bisley L/R Gold, Weihrauch F&T, Marksman Dome, Eley Wasp 5.5, Defiant 5.48, H&N Field target tro, Webley Mosquito, Crosman Premier, Defiant 5.50, BSA Elite, Air Arms Hunter, Daystate FT 5.51, RWS Superfield, Webley Lazadome, Bisley Pest Control, Weihrauch Magnum, Bisley Magnum. I'll use the Hobby Flat for target and the Dynamics for the Maggies. This gun hated the Spitfires, failing to hit a 3" target at 15m.They were all over the place on an A4 Sheet. I was also surprised that it didn't like the Defiants. The Dynamic SN2's are Brilliant in all 3 guns but failed the Webley on accuracy. The Milbro Jets are also a really good Budget pellet if you like points, the Caledonians if you want domes or for cheap plinkers. I wont do any more till I get a PCP but I might put some through my lads 220 just to see whats best for him. I look forward to a bit of plinking without messing with the Chrony. :o I hope I have helped prove the point that all guns are different and that there is only one way to find the 'right' pellet. I would like to test similarly used 77's or 400's so that we could show the difference between the same type of guns. Right, where's the Magpies !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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