viking Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 hi guys, i own a beretta 686e sporting, ans as well as sporting i shoot alot of DTL and was wondering if it woud be best to get a trap gun aswell, would it benefit my scores or not, thanks, lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 the higher ribs normaly assosiated with trap guns are an advantage for target aqausition, its why they built them like it, if you want to concemtrate on the one discipline i'd say yes to getting a gun for the game, if not the sporter will sufice, when you think about it we all shoot away targets in the field right, you dont drop one gun for the other,,,,,,,,,,,,normaly anyway, your skill is in the way you apply the tool you have for the job at hand, practice all games and get better all the time. Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted February 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 thanks martin, that all makes sence. no point buying another gun if i dont need to, all though im not ruling it out just yet cheers lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 never say never eh, take a look at my stash and you understand, one of those " i can do that, what do i need" problem then is your spoilt for choice Lee Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Dedicated trap guns are set up to optimise the trap target situation. High ribs give better visibility on the target and raise the position of the but pad so the recoil goes straight through to the shoulder minimising muzzle flip ( important when taking a second barrel shot in quick succession). The trap stock is different too, the comb is parallel, not sloping as in a sporter ( called a Monte-Carlo ). Vari-combs are increasingly popular for fine tuning comb height. As a trap gun is shot mounted, longer pull lengths are preferred, 15" being typical. The trap heel pad will be ventilated rubber to accept recoil, or a piston type. It will have a curve to fit the shoulder, and usually be chequered on the heel for positive grip to the shoulder ( skeet pads are smooth for frictionless mounting). The comb height on a trap gun is set higher than on other disciplines so that the shot rises from the gun. The rising of the shot load meets the rising target, but beware shooting over the top of centre targets, particularity a low away ABT one. The trap gun will probably have long barrels 30" or 32", and set chokes. 1/2 bottom and 3/4 top for DTL / ABT. Hader trap disciplines use 3/4 and full. Bottom barrel is always fired first to reduce muzzle flip, and dedicated trap guns dont have barrel selectors for this reason. My trap gun is a 20 year old Perazzi MX2 - what a trap gun, but only about £1,000 for a gun that cost £6000 when it was new 20 yrs ago!! Cant go wrong with an older Perazzi, MX8's are very similar. Perazzi are for trap guns what Rolls Royce are for cars. The other brand to go for is a K-80 Kreigoff, but you need a deep pocket even for a second hand one!! Jerry Parks Young CPSA Senior Coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 i shot an MX8 years a few years back in skeet config 28" tulla choked, lovely tool, second trigger set as well, if you shot trap at competition level clayman, do you know dave (herbbie) Horswell, another you may know John Primrose, the first is obviously a brit, his son is an exellant shot also, the later, a Canadian trap champion. ?? just curious. K80 mmmmmmmmmmm tend to dream of them, have you shot any of the kolar guns?? nice tools Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Don't know them by name, but there are so many nodding acquaintances. My skeet is a ported 28" retro choked MX8. Its even older than the MX2, I believe the skeet gun is from the mid 70s and from the earliest MX8 production as not everything is interchangeable with later models (fore-end is different). I bought it from Chis Potter for a silly bargain price of just £800-00, and I love the gun. Clayman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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