Birdboy Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Hi, Just reading all the topics, especially on ranges of the 17HMR and .22 and its just occured to me that im not entirely sure where to shoot vermin on the body and in particular Charlie if i get to see him !! Im hoping to get granted a .17HMR and a .22LR shortly (FEO meeting this Sunday) so havent yet begun vermin control with a rifle, only shotgun and air rifle. If i was to shoot at a fox within range on the HMR, what part of the body/head do i aim for ? I m assuming the head ?? Same for Rabbits, i would normally aim for the head . . . Any help gratefully received. Cheers Gaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagey Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Depends on range/ability/confidence, with my centre fire i always go for front sholder, and never had runner.. i always go for head with hmr. Guess everyones opinions will be different.. not saying my ways the right way! Always worked for me though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anschutz.17hmr Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 i only tend to take shots when the fox is facing me,and go for a chest shot,not keen on head shots as theres danger of wounding(hitting jaw or just clipping something not vital)just my opinion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagey Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Totally agree, but i wouldn't take my hmr out specifically for foxing, but if i happened upon one whilst rabbiting i've taken them down in the past with head shots.. like i said it all depends on how confident you are with the rifle's capabilitys.. and happy that your not going to wound. I personally wouldn't shoot at anything alive with a rifle without being confident that i could put a bullet within an inch area.. but then again we're all only human and do make mistakes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagey Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Cant always wait for the fox to face you! Their usually walking away or looking around.. A sholder shot is very humane and very distructive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anschutz.17hmr Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 i agree with the shoulder completely with .222 but i would,nt even think about it hmr!i,ve done head shots with hmr but prefer chest shots just cus its so easily buffeted by wind!time you got them foxes trained to run towards you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagey Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Ha.. yea i must try whistling next time! Yea i agree with what your saying.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdboy Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 So a chest / shoulder shot is more destructive than a head shot ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagey Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 I've always found it to be.. but like you said i wouldn't take a shoulder shot with hmr.. i always go for head with that, i've only ever shot 3 with hmr and all been whilst we've been out in landy after rabbits.. and none of them complained about the fact that i shot them in the head! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdboy Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Glad i asked. Good advice. Im more likely to see Charlie with my .22, so i would have probably gone for the head shot before, but now, i will go for the chest & shoulder. Thanks to you both. Gaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anschutz.17hmr Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 do.nt go for the shoulder shot with .22 rimmy were talking .22 centrefire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdboy Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 So the rimmy is a no go on fox ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anschutz.17hmr Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 22 rimmy close range head or chest!close range i mean not more than 50-60 yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdboy Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Great, thanks man Gaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 do a bit of research on the net and see if you can find a diagram of the internal organs of a fox, then present the shot in such a way to hit the heart, bearing in mind it's location in the body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagey Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Trust me.. you put a 22-250 accutip in a foxes shoulder blade it hits enough bone and vital organs to kill it instantly. I've never had one so much as make another step! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Centrefire, if he's side on then aim just behind the shoulder, mid height from backbone to brisket (I think it's called, someone correct me please). If he's facing you then go for a chest shot. You've got a much bigger vital area to aim for here, think heart and lungs Rimfire, headshot, I either go for between the eyes if he's facing me or side on if you draw a line from the base of his ear to his eye then aim midpoint on that line. Biggest problem, well problems, are it's a rimfire.... and all the animals senses are located in the head, so a strage smell, a movement, a noise etc will cause that head to move. Centrefire will be more forgiving for a poorly placed shot, but it's not an excuse to take them. Rimfire, there is little room for error as it's nowhere near as powerful or destructive. Take your time and evaluate the situation, each one will be different. If you're in doubt then let him off for another time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagey Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Good advice.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdboy Posted April 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Hi Guys, also just found this with digrams at bottom http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pd...248/fox-003.pdf Cheers all Gaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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