fac shotgun saiga 12

[Cranfield]

have a FAC land i shoot on has large crow problem ,do you thick i can apply for saiga 12 ,or just apply for nova pump or are they strictly for range shooting

 

Getting back to the original question, why do you think you need a gun that can fire more than the three shots of a SGC semi auto ?

 

The crows won't sit around while you fire 5,10,15....etc shots at them.

 

I have shot with a semi auto for years (I had a number of 5 shot guns until the law changed) and I have never felt the need for more than 3 shots maximum.

The opportunity for three realistic kills in three shots doesn't occur that often and can be even harder to achieve.

 

If you want a FAC semi auto for Practical Shotgunning, then that is a whole different issue.

[neil smith]

Southernlad

 

My concern is more with the type of person who wants this gun for a purpose it is clearly not suited just because of the way it looks, in my experience it is a gun suited in the UK to competition target shooting on controled ranges under the supervision of a range officer, within that framework they are fine.

 

We in this country now have to pander to those who are offended by the private ownership of guns, its something that other shooters in free countries do not need to consider, we have lost many of our more interesting firearms & rights because shooters thinking the same way as yourself were quick in your own words to "distance themselves" from this type of rifle & the target shooters using them, with the flawed thinking that as long as they dont want your guns everthing is ok.

 

I am well aware of what caused the law changes in this country as I was forced to hand over guns on both occasions, I dont however think that the legislation was justified in either case but thats another story.

 

Its only a matter of time before your kind of shooting becomes the gun control groups next target, who do you think will be left to help you fight for your rights, we should be standing together.

 

I have said all I wish to say on this topic I will add one more thing regarding this gun, it is not well suited for walking the fields with, there are lighter more suitable guns for hunting, Its is easy for the public to be alarmed by what "they" see as a guy in a field with a military looking rifle, however they do not look out of place on an approved range because that is where you expect to see them, so it is really a question of using it for its intended purpose & not wanting one just to flash about the countryside frightening ramblers.

 

By the way Dr Scholl thats a very nice AR

 

unfortunately its also a good example of the freedoms we have allowed to slip away.

 

 

N

Edited October 18, 2008 by neil smith

[Dr_Scholl]

Thanks, Neil Smith. Unfortunately, it's gotten very expensive to feed over the past year thanks to ammo and fuel prices going through the roof. Hopefully the recession will change that.

 

What guns did you have before 97 and 88, if you don't mind me asking?

[Baldrick]

Getting back to the original question, why do you think you need a gun that can fire more than the three shots of a SGC semi auto ?

 

The crows won't sit around while you fire 5,10,15....etc shots at them.

 

I have shot with a semi auto for years (I had a number of 5 shot guns until the law changed) and I have never felt the need for more than 3 shots maximum.

The opportunity for three realistic kills in three shots doesn't occur that often and can be even harder to achieve.

 

If you want a FAC semi auto for Practical Shotgunning, then that is a whole different issue.

 

You've clearly never shot rabbits and foxes off the deck of a combine, or chased them down in a Polaris Ranger. Ten shots isn't enough then, when a field carpeted in rabbits literally moves in front of you.

[neil smith]

What guns did you have before 97 and 88, if you don't mind me asking?

 

 

In the first ban I lost a Colt AR rifle & had to swap a shotgun onto an FAC certificate in the second ban I lost a Beretta 92F & a Glock 17 both in 9mm.

 

I handed the Beretta in for the payment offered & after getting the Glock 17 de-activated I was able to keep it, I now use it for dry fire practice at home for when I travel to shoot in IPSC pistol matches abroad in production division.

 

I then switched my interest to Practical shotgun within the UK as that is the only real action shooting sport we have left, luckily it has grown very quickly in europe over the last 5 years, Italy & Greece holding the first two european championships & some other great matches like the German Open I went to in July 08 can be found now.

 

In the USA the first Pan-American IPSC Shotgun Championship will be held in 2010 in the south, most likely in Georgia or Alabama which I will not be missing.

 

The first IPSC Shotgun "World Shoot" is scheduled for 2011 hopefully in Europe but Bali has been mentioned

 

N

Edited October 20, 2008 by neil smith

[Cranfield]

Getting back to the original question, why do you think you need a gun that can fire more than the three shots of a SGC semi auto ?

 

The crows won't sit around while you fire 5,10,15....etc shots at them.

 

I have shot with a semi auto for years (I had a number of 5 shot guns until the law changed) and I have never felt the need for more than 3 shots maximum.

The opportunity for three realistic kills in three shots doesn't occur that often and can be even harder to achieve.

 

If you want a FAC semi auto for Practical Shotgunning, then that is a whole different issue.

 

You've clearly never shot rabbits and foxes off the deck of a combine, or chased them down in a Polaris Ranger. Ten shots isn't enough then, when a field carpeted in rabbits literally moves in front of you.

 

The original question was about shooting crows, as was my answer.

 

You are correct, I have "never shot rabbits and foxes off the deck of a combine, or chased them down in a Polaris Ranger".

I have shot over hundreds of combined harvest fields, but all from the ground with standard SGC equipment (apart from when I had my .22 Hornet).