mdc124 Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 (edited) Ok, here's a daft question (probably) I am new to shooting (just waiting for the paperwork before getting a gun) For my own reasons I want/need a very lightweight gun and there are 2 on my list: Beretta Ultralight 12g or Beretta SP 20g Reading the reviews 'heavier guns are better' for clay shooting and who would "want to put too many heavy loads through a lovely lightweight little gun like" the ultralight. Bearing in mind that they weigh the same and i'd probably be shooting the same weight of shot in either, is one better than the other for a beginner? I have used the 20g and shot well with it, but i havent used an ultralight All comments greatfully received Edited November 30, 2008 by mdc124 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 Will you just be shooting clays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdc124 Posted November 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 Ok... is there more to the reason behind the lightgun choice? Remember that 12g shells are a fair bit cheaper than a 20g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdc124 Posted November 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 (edited) The reason is that i shoot with one hand. I 'think' i'd prefer a 12g for the exact reason you mention (i'd like to think i'll shoot a fair bit: children, wife, work, life permitting) i'm assuming the recoil from either gun, with the same load will be the same - so no particular reason to go 20g Edited November 30, 2008 by mdc124 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 (edited) Just to confuse matters then.. Have you considered a Semi Auto? Not only are they lightweight, the recoil is far reduced from say an over-and-under.. I also recall somebody else from here, who shoots with one hand - and they were able to have a custom made pistol grip type stock made I love the 20g, but if I were just shooting clays - I'd stick with a 12g Edited November 30, 2008 by garyb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter De La Mare Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 There is a chap who frequents, or refs/instructs, the A1 shooting ground who is missing his left hand. He borrowed someones 12g O/U and quite nicely showed everyone (inc me) how to shoot a particularly tricky bird that most of us missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 At a clay shoot yetserday a guy in our squad was using a 20 bore. He had some 36g (I think that is what he said) cartridges that he used on a couple of stands. I couldn't help thinking why? Especially when you could see the recoil he was submitting himself to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 I shoot 20 and 12. To be honest my 28g 20's are OK for most of the time, but at my clay club yesterday there were some targets that were a little far out and my 20 was not quite up to it (assuming of course my shooting was up to scratch!) Most clay guys use 12's - and as pointed out 12 bore cartridges are less expensive, so I would tend to go for a 12 in the first place. 20's do make quire a difference if you do allot of rough shooting where you are walking around with the gun all day - then the weight saving in my opinion makes a big difference. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdc124 Posted December 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 but in principle am i right - same weight of gun same weight of shot= same recoil? or would a 20g have less powder therefore less kick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 No less power, often less weight of shot / number of shot per load in a 20. Recoil is a function of the weight of the shot x speed of the shot. the heavier or faster the load the more recoil there will be (opposite and equal action / reaction). Also a heavier gun will take more to shift so less felt recoil. D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.C. Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Most of the one handed shooters I have heard of used a 12g Beretta semi-auto with a custom made synthetic stock. I think I saw an article some years back explaining how you could take a synthetic stock and build it up around the pistol grip with car filler to give more support so that the grip wrapped itself around your hand like a glove . The stock looked like the old "free pistol" target stock of years gone by ( when we were allowed to shoot pistols). I think they felt the 12g was still a better tool for shooting clays than a 20g. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdc124 Posted December 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Thanks for all the replies - i think i'll go with the 12g ultralight to start with - I fancy getting a cheap semi too - but in time. and as for custom stocks - when i'm only missing 10% i'll go in search of the rest with custom stocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren_mc Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 where are you from as i shoot with a ultra light you could try it if you like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdc124 Posted December 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 I'm in York. so not far - thanks for the offer. I'm just waiting for my certificate so when it's arrived i may take you up on that, thanks Where do you shoot? and do you use it for clays predominantly or a mix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SidneyG Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 (edited) At the DSG mini international comp there was a finnish guy, Sepo, he shot a 12g sporter, off the right shoulder, just using the left hand. He was good too. I would say If you want to go clay shooting try the 12 O/U and give it a bit of time. This site may also interest you if you hav'nt already seen it: http://www.disabledsg.co.uk .... Im sure someone on there can advise. Edited December 12, 2008 by SidneyG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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