mark_mjs93 Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 (edited) ok well i have recently got my new dog, his name is ollie and he is a springer spainel cross collie, they believed there was jack russel in him but they thought it to be a very small amount, im not very sure if he will make a good gun dog but he is absolutley off his rocker he is obviously has working breeds in him so he is very energetic now when we got him he was VERY nervous although he is the lovliest dog you will meet he is very nervous of some people but most he is fine with he will be all over them the newer people he meets some he can love some he is very nervous about, when we introduced him to his collar not long ago but he hated it he got very off and went and laid in his crate not in an angry way but as if he had been punished, well now i've introduced the lead and he is just the same he hates it he is very nervous, its very strange he sort of cowers when he has it on, if anyone can help there would be ACE... im posting some photos for you to see... he is very good around the gun and i think he will make a good gun dog, but i would like a couple of opinions. 1. does he look like he will make a good gun dog? 2. what do i do about the lead nervousness thing? thanks for any help offered i love to hear opinions, here are th photos... Edited January 9, 2009 by mark_mjs93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonevo Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 To be honest ,the way you have described his character he is a little too nervous,maybe if you bring him on, give him a treat when you put his lead on,build up his confidence in you. Most importantly whats he like around noise big bangs etc.. bonfire night, dropping a tray on the floor etc.. IF and only IF he can still act normal and not cower away and start shaking, will you ever know but firstly you need to make the dog confident and respect you,give him treats show him that he will get rewards etc experience and time will tell.the more time and effort you put into your dog the better he will be. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntinlass Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 (edited) As Jonevo said give him treats, reward him so he knows its a good thing. Repeat the action that he is nervous of regularly so he gets use to it. Put the lead on him when he goes into the garden for a pee for example, reward him and praise him as he walks on the lead. The same thing applies around new people and dogs- the more he sees and interacts with the more confident he will be around them. Its a matter of persistance. I'm sure if he has got spaniel in his bloodline, he can be put to use as a gundog, I think its down to the training you provide for him- many people train unusal breeds for the gundog world- if a dog has it, it has it. Edited January 7, 2009 by Huntinlass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_mjs93 Posted January 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 (edited) he is a great dog without the lead on lol, but with it on he is SOOOOO nervous, loud bangs, well i didnt get him till after bonfire night but on new years my next door neighbours had fireworks and he walked out into the garden like it was nothing new, he even sat at the front window watching them the bangs didnt phase him, the gun he is great around i have on many occasions done plinking in the back garden with my air rifle and he has common sense and stays behind the gun until i say he can go... its great but this nervousness worrys me and i ent sure if it could affect him if i ever take him out for a day, i might when i have trained him up and he is a bit more confident on the lead, introduce him to the air rifle properly first, i've never trained or sued a gundog before so this is a new experience for both of us... im dedicated and i hope to have alot of good shoots with him by my side... assuming of course that he beats this nervousness around the lead... Edited January 7, 2009 by mark_mjs93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Country_est Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 More questions than answers at the moment mate, How old is he & where did you get him from. You say he is fine with some people but not others, is there any simmilaritys to the one he doesnt like ? MIL had rescue dog that loved kids (as long as they wernt blond). and was funny about men without beards. My old lab was a rescue dog and at first he didnt like being alone or in a room with a closed door, but now is fine. Just need as much info as too what caused the nervousness in the first place. Trev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_mjs93 Posted January 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 ok here is all the stuff i know about him lol.. he is from a rescue home we got him at 10 monthes old (the mum died after giving birth to the last puppy) he was 1 of 5 he was the most nervous he is now 14 weeks old and has settled into life here... when i said he is ok with some people but not others i mean random people no similarities, my old dog had a problem with men with hats on but only if he didnt know them a neighbour a few doors down constantly wears his cap old dog had no problem with him, but if a man he didnt know came to the door in a cap or a woolie hat he would start barking at them.... i dont know if its worth mentioning but he doesnt like baths either... i was giving him a bath and he kept trying to climb out (yes i made sure the water wasnt to hot or too cold, and i used dog shampoo and such) he is a great dog but he had the nervousness with the collar at first but when i decided to leave it on him he slowly learnt that it wasnt a bad thing... do you think i should let him trail around the house with a training line or something to help him get used to the lead??? he is a good dog and i know he has potential to be a great gundog, but i need him to overcome this nervousness on the lead because that is a key training tool and him being nervous on the lead will keep slowing down the training sessions. if i put him on the lead and i walk him around the garden (i try using this as exercise he doesnt get his last injection until tomorow) when i take the lead off after this exercise if you can call it that (it isnt really he pulls the lead backwards even when i attempt to correct this it doesnt work) he is very withdrawn and will sit in his crate for at least an hour before he is back to his normal self... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Country_est Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 OK, Slightly confused, you say "he is from a rescue home we got him at 10 monthes old (the mum died after giving birth to the last puppy) he was 1 of 5 he was the most nervous he is now 14 weeks old and has settled into life here..." But mention later his last injections before going out, so I will take it as he is only 14 WEEKS old and you got him at 10 WEEKS. If this is so then just take it easy, very easy with him. Print of the 8 week obedience guide from NTTF on the pinned section here. Once he gets his freedom after the last injection then it opens up a bit new world to him, at which point getting the leader on will mean going out for walks ect and he will soon come to love it. Mine do even if I still havent got her heeling properly at 9 month. Will on her own, and on the way back from the walk, but with the old dog as well on the way out she can be a bit of a puller. Just take your time with him, he is not really a rescue at that age, the fact he had a bit of a hard start in life but now he is all yors to have and sort. What a really mean by that is he hasnt, shouldnt have and real bad habbits of anyone elses making at that young of an age. Hope this helps Trev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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