andy33 Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 i'll be buying one of these shortly tried for a few second hand ones on here but just missed out, so the question is which do you prefer and why. also could somebody explain to me if its not pump action how does the cartridge cycle??. This might sound daft but i've no experiance with semi auto so any tips would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warlock Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 (edited) Basically look at a pump action, where the action cycles by your arm, with a semi auto this is performed by the gases and recoil produced from firing a shotgun cartridge. Also semi auto all the way out of the two, purely for the reason that when clay shooting and pigeon shooting pumping a shotgun for a quick second shot can be slow. Edited March 22, 2009 by Warlock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy33 Posted March 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Cheers for the reply; i've read some threads that suggest some semi autos dont cycle the cartridges to well is this a cleaning issue or a problem with cheaper cartridges, or something else??. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 My escort gas action S/A will cycle anything over 67mm, I dont have an issue with cheap carts, but I do clean it regulay which I think helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 i've read some threads that suggest some semi autos dont cycle the cartridges to well is this a cleaning issue or a problem with cheaper cartridges, or something else??. Semi-autos need to be kept clean or more specific-the gas ports inside barrel.They vent off a small amount of gas from fired cartridge and can get clogged,but just get in the habit of poking a bit of wire through when cleaning does the trick.My Escort isnt cartridge fussy,but i do use 67mm minimum and make a habit of cleaning it everytime i get back with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy33 Posted March 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Cheers for the advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cribmaster Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 my escort has been great no probs with what ever i seem to put though it i do clean it well after every use and add a drop of oil to the moving parts near the spring buying another soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzlinone Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 I have both a pump action Mossberg and a s/a Escort and both perform faultlessly. The benifit with the Mossberg is it has a 10 year warranty and is so simple to strip and clean, plus a lot more fun to use, especially for skeet. If you are not too up on stripping semi-auto shotguns, you may wish to stay away from a semi-auto as the gas from the cartridge used to cycle the rounds means you will need you to perform regular cleaning to keep the shotgun performing well. A pump action will cycle anything you throw at it, whereas a semi-auto may struggle to cycle certain cartridges like 21g ones as there is not enough of a bang to force the action to complete it's cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackinbox99 Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Ive got both a mossberg pump and a beretta semi. My semi has no problem cycling everything from small 24g cartridges, upto bigger 3inch shells. Ive only ever had a couple of occasions where it hasnt cycled properly. I tend to stip it and give the piston etc.. a good clean once a year. At one stage I was doing 250 cartridges through it every weekend. Im not sure how the escorts compare, I have heard that some dont cycle as well with the smaller cartridges, but to be honest, your not likely to be using anything under 28g. For the cash, i think you cant go wrong, and i myself was considering buying an escort semi just to knock about in the field with rather than use my beretta. The thing I love about the semi is the lack of recoil, it makes shooting it so much more enjoyable. Especially when you want to mount it quick to shoot a clay or pigeon, you can concentrate more on the bird rather than worrying about your mount & the recoil. As someone else said, with a semi you can fire the shots literally as quick as you can pull the trigger, wereas with a pump the pumping action delays things, and can move the gun from where you are aiming - so you have to re-aim it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest topshot_2k Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Mossberg, better quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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