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I think the naval gun referred to above was called a Murderer: http://www.ccmuseumedres.com/tour.php?acti...s&record=31 Hub

Thanks for the clarification David. Should this be a sticky as a warning to all those airgunners operating in their back yards? You can shoot pigeon there, but it is only justified under the terms of the OGL: if you comply with it and can quote from it, you can avoid unnecessary unpleasantness. That goes for the rest of us too. Hub.

I've found the case where the guy got fined: http://www.expressandstar.com/2009/01/06/j...on-shot-pigeon/ . It looks to me like there was more to it than just shooting a wood pigeon in your back garden - notably the humane aspect. Had he made a better job of it (like the_haganizer) he may have been able to summon-up a better defence. I might run this past BASC and see what they have to say. Hub.

I've been thinking about this and I'd like to see the legal arguments from Hogey's quote... Is there a suggestion that, as pigeon-shooters, we have to somehow 'catch them at it' (damaging crops I mean ) in order to meet the terms of the licence? If a farmer asks us to protect his crops (I'm assuming he's already taken non-lethal precautions for the sake of this argument) are we entitled to only shoot the pigeons that have been damaging those crops? What if we successfully decoy and shoot a woodie that was 'just passing'? Surely there has to be some assumption that that woodie had been doing some damage somewhere else, or was going on to do some damage somewhere? In which case, what's the difference with the_haganizer's actions and what we do legally under the terms of the general licence? What it comes down to is the argument that all woodies do some damage to some crops at some time and it is reasonable to assume that all farmers take some non-lethal measures to protect those crops, but they are not always effective, therefore, shooting woodies must be permissable at any time or place... surely? On both my permissions (both growing winter rape, winter wheat and some fruit trees) there is very little pigeon activity at the moment (they're either on neighbouring drillings or clover), so my farmer's crops are spared; does that mean I cannot shoot them even if I successfully decoy them into range? Of course not, because the assumption is that they are doing damage to those neighbouring crops and the_haganizer has done the same thing: protecting neighbouring crops from damage whilst in the confines of his 'permission'. I rest the case for the Defence Hub.

Has anyone got a spare bit of antler to fix my grandad's walking stick? His has broken. It needs to form a right angle about 10cm along one side and 7cm along the other and be about 23mm diameter. PM me if you can help. Cheers lads, Hub.

I've just landed a new permission and the farmer is getting heavily into cherries. He's noticed that the woodies are eating the new buds on the cherry trees (for the first time in his experience) and has asked me to try and dissuade them Has anyone got any clever tips for decoying into cherry trees? Hub.

Crikey Shaggy! Your farmer must be tearing his hair out! I'm about half an hour away if I can help. Jules.

Yeah I heard that those Jimnies punch way above their weight. Nonetheless I haven't got this stuck anywhere yet:

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I was lucky enough to arrive at my permission inbetween the showers today, but there's still no shorter/flattened areas to decoy on. The woodies seem to be trying to hover at the top of the wheat in their desperation to eat it and are ignoring the rape. I decided to take a stroll and see what I could walk up. I lost a blackie somewhere, but it was still great being out in the late afternoon sunshine. It was the first time I had a camera too Hub

No... got it wrong. The next Ellenden shoot is this Sunday 18th May, so future ones will be: 1st June 15th June (Fathers' Day) 29th June Hub.

Ellenden's still going - it's just round the corner from me, but I haven't been yet. It is fortnightly and I think the last one was 10th/11th May, so figure it out from there. I think that this link might take you to the right map: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=60...0&ay=160050 let me know if it doesn't work. Hub

I've just got myself a 300TDI Disco. It hasn't got all terrain tyres yet, but doesn't seem to need'em! I can't see the attachments button, otherwise I'd post a photo Hub.

Oh. Hang on. According to this site: http://proofhouse.com/cm/codes_markings.htm, 'TRUST SUPRA - Tradename on pistols made by Fab. d'Armes de Guerre de Grand Precision, Eibar, Spain.

Eibar is a place in Spain famous for armaments - like Steel from Sheffield. Trust is presumably the name of the firm, but they don't appear here: http://personales.jet.es/rafa/b_punzones_larga_lisa.html, so maybe they could be an importer? See if that gets you further. Hub