Renegade Master

Woodys of Wembley, West London. Great guys in there, really helpful and they hunt too. Have given me lots of advice over the years.

For a more accurate Co2 pistol, have a look at the S&W 586 (or 686 if you like nickel). One of the best triggers out there for a Co2 gun, 10 shot mag, and very accurate. Also comes with a choice of barrel length and optional silencer. Oh, and no Co2 gun should be used for quarry, not even rats. It's just not humane. Use a proper full power rifle for that job. Dan

Mine prefers AA Field's too. The only other pellets that came close were Webley Mosquito's, but good luck trying to find those!

Hi With air rifles you basically have 3 choices: Springer (inc gas ram), PCP (pre charged pneumatic) or Co2 powered. Springers are generally cheaper, especially 2nd hand, and are self contained (ie you don't need any other kit apart from pellets and a scope). However springers do suffer from recoil. I guess that won't be so much of a problem for you as you shoot 12g. PCP's are more expensive and require charging kit (a pump or dive bottle). However they are virtually recoilless and carry enough charge for between 40 and 200 odd shots (depending on rifle). Most PCP's also come in a multi shot variant, giving between 8 and 14 shots per mag. Co2 rifles are generally cheaper than PCP's, and still offer recoilless shotting. However the Co2 capsules need replacing which can prove expensive in the long run. Also, Co2 suffers from loss of power in colder weather (C02 expands when warm so gives more power). Caliber is a whole discussion on it's own. Some prefer 177, some 22. Personally I use 22, prefer the bigger pellet and am quite happy to calculate and practice the correct holdover, rather than rely on the flatter trajectory of the 177. You will have to make up your own mind on that one. In terms of distance, I limit myself to 35-40 yards. The rifle is capable of killing cleanly at greater ranges, I am not. As for kit, depends on you. You will probably want to get a scope, and you will obviously need pellets. You may want a gun case or bag. You may want a bi pod. If going PCP you will need a pump or dive bottle. Hope it helps. Dan

The bottom rifle is a Daystate Mk1. The one above is a HW100, the one above that is a BSA Ultra, and the top one I have no idea about, but it is an underlever springer (or gasram?) not a PCP. Couldn't tell you about the scopes, although the one on the Ultra appears to be a nightvision rig. The ultra is quite a small rifle, so maybe somebodys ratting rig?

Chris 1) No, you can leave PCP's charged with air, you don't need to empty them. In fact this would be a waste, as you normally top up when the power drops of the curve (with my rifles thats around 100 bar). 2) With most rifles you will know roughly how many "good" shots you will get per fill. If you let the pressure fall off you will notice a change on point of impact, so yes, you just top up whenever you want. 3) Most new rifles have a quick fill facility, I wouldn't say any one was better than another. However, some PCP's are regulated and some are not. Regulated rifles tend to have a a flatter power curve, if any at all. 4) Wasn't a question , but don't buy a rifle on looks. You need to try some out ans see what "fits" you best. 5) I have a Air Arms S410 carbine and a Weihrauch HW100 carbine. Both very good rifle's and very effective hunting tools. Personally I also like the look of Daystates and some BSA's. 6) As I said above, you really need to try a few out. Plenty of manufactures make carbine models, so thats not a problem. Weight can be an issue, my HW100 weighs a fair bit more than the S410. However too light can be just as bad when you are shooting of hand. It probably helps if you buy a rifle that is manufactured in the UK (like Air Arms) as opposed to a foreign manufacturer (such as Weihrauch). The only reason for this is if it has to go back to the factory it will probably be quicker shipping to a UK address. Hope it helps Dan

Hello mate, I only joined a few days ago myself. Nice site this.

The HW silencer is awesome on a 410. Obviously you will need an adpater.

No worries Andy, it's what forums are for. Cheers buddy Dan

It's not a bad rifle, but it is Co2 powered. This means the power may fluctuate depending on ambient temperature. Plus you will have to buy Co2 cannisters (88g ones I think) which can get expensive.

Andy If you want to shoot off a bipod then you really need to be looking at PCP rifles. Springers generally don't work as well from bipods due to the recoil. For £250 you should be able to get a fairly good 2nd hand PCP, possibly a AA S200, S400 or maybe a BSA Ultra. However don't forget you will also need a scope and charging gear, which will probably be another £250 ish. Dan

As far as I know that scope does not have parallax adjustment, so the target will not always be in focus. However, as long as the cross hairs are in focus it shouldn't be a problem. If you can't get on with it, sell it and buy a scope with PA. Dan

Andy Most 12ftlbs air rifles are capable of taking rabbits to around 40 yards (depending on calibre). The answer to what the best air rifle is, is what fits you best. Everybody is different. I have a AAs410 and a HW100, both are awesome rifles but what suits me may not suit you. It's a good idea to find a local gun club and go and have a look at other peoples equipment ( :wacko: ). Most clubs are crying out for members and will be happy to let you look at their rifles and have a few shots. Try as many as you can. Then get down to some gun shops and have a hold of everything they have in stock. You will soon work out what "fits" you, and what sort of budget you will need. Hope it helps, Dan

It's actually something really silly, like 192 ftlbs. Check it out!

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You can get the CB 625 direct from Combro for £39.95, heres the link http://www.chronoscopes.com/

Cheers, seems like a real friendly forum.

Cheers guys

Hi Everyone I'm Dan, I live in London and have been shooting airguns since I was old enough to pick one up. I only recently found this site following a link from airgunforum.net I started hunting about 8 months ago and frequently see hundreds of pigeons flying over my permission. I am hoping to pick everybody's brains about decoying and hide building, but I will leave that for my 2nd post. Cheers Dan