Evilv
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You'd really want to be sure the guy who did it would be good enough to make a nice job of it, wouldn't you. Imagine giving the old man his gun back with some dodgy scene plastered all over it..... Doesn't bear thinking about does it?
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sorry for being thick but how dose it work mate?
You shape it up and finish the knife.
That Damascus Steel looks great doesn't it? I'd bet when finished and polished up it would look great.
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Another body has been found at the house. It was discovered on Sunday evening. Sad to say, it will be the girl, I think.
This Foster guy was a very bad man. A judge described him as being a perosn without morality in the context of his business failures. It seems he was more right than he knew maybe.
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I had a very bad experience the other day with a hare. Disgusted with myself really. I was shooting rabbits on a farm I have only just taken on. Got myself in the middle of a field of stubble about a hundred yards off from a patch where I'd seen a few rabbits the other day. I was leaning up against a round straw bale and waited for the bunnies to come out, the HMR at the ready. Along comes a rabbit on the edge of the hedge. Bang - plop. Another wait and same again. Then I spotted one crouching a wee bit further off. It was roughly where the rabbits had come from, so I sighted him up in the puny 4x32 scope. He was about a hundred and twenty yards off, I shot him in the head and he rolled over into the stubble out of sight. I waited some more and got another rabbit, then went out to pick them all up.
This is where it all went bad. The 120 yard one was not a rabbit at all, but was a hare and he wasn't dead. The poor chap was lying there groaning and gurgling with half his head missing. I was very sorry for his suffering and put him down quickly, but it really ruined my day - not as much as his, but it was a salutary lesson in taking better care. It also raises the question of how tough a hare is and whether the HMR is up to the job. The bullet had struck him about 5mm below the eye and about a centimeter behind that. Any rabbit would have been instantly killed by a hit like that, but not this chap. If I was shooting hares again, which I won't be often, I think I would go for a chest shot. Like I said - I am very sorry this happened, mostly because he had a hard ending which I try never to have happen.
Maybe there are too many parts of the head that will not bring instant death when hit. I suppose we've all seen some of that with rabbits too. A little misjudgement of the wind and the lethal area is missed - especially easy if the nose is down wind of the target region.
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When I started out with a shotgun a long time ago, I consistently fired at birds that were far too far off. Forty yards is not very far at all, and in terms of stuff in the sky, it is very close indeed. I spent a lot of money shooting at birds that were way out of range. Try not to do the same. Good luck and happy days.
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evilv,
yes, it is different for a referee (FAC) and a countersignatory (SGC), though the difference isn't much. The Countersignatory calls for someone of standing. They list doctor, lawyer, or anyone who would be listed in a public record. However, in talking to my FLO when I applied, anyone of good standing would be fine. He said anyone who has completed University (he might have said college since I didn't know the difference at the time), who is a manager, or similar would work.
For the referee, it can be anyone who has known you for 2 years and meets the residency requirements.
Thanks,
Rick
That's very 'classist' isn't it. Half the world goes to university these days so I'm not sure how long that will stand as an indication of good standing and since I regularly see university students staggering about drunk and peeing in doorways in Newcastle where there are 30,000 students, it doesn't look like a good training for being 'of good standing,' anyway.
Well, since my bird is a doctor, I can get any number of her colleagues to sign me off as insane.
EvilV,
I can only go by what I was told.
Thanks,
Rick
Thanks Rick - I wasn't chipping away at you there by the way. I have always thought these forms were linked to class snobbery. The assumption is that so called professional people, landowners and the like have superior judgment to the average person. Some do, and some don't, while some of the sanest and wisest people I ever met, were in economic and professional terms very humble indeed.
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after reading this i am not sure if its a wind up yet or not but if its not ,
I personally would not let you near a gun sorry ,but you have said you are on medication for anxiety and depression.Now tell me if i am wrong but a depressed guy with shotgun in a gun club is a gun clubs nightmare,look i am not saying that you would but you obviously have problems or had ,you do need to come off the medication for i would say at least 12 months .
To the rest of the members on here saying he should carry on using gun at club, dont think we need reminding about the terrible news this week about the house fire. We will get slated again
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This is the problem that people who have had depression face - imbecilic attitudes of people who know nothing and think that any hint of a problem means the guy is a psycho waiting to explode.
What an idiotic answer to give.
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My car tax runs out today. I thought I would do the modern thing and renew it online and waited till today so my salary would cover it. Reading the reminder,it seems I now cant drive the bloody car until it comes in the post. Am I getting the wrong impression or what? I have no choice but to drive and despite the electronic record,I am likely to get nicked for not having the bit of paper in the windscreen. If the system accepts electronic proof that my MOT and insurance are valid,then why would the cops not accept I had coughed up the tax? Please tell me otherwise.
Have you renewed it?
if so, forget it and drive. They always left you a fortnight's grace anyway in the old days. Nobody will be after you. Just make sure you renew it today and if owt happens, you will soon have proof.
I always renew online now. It is so much easier than arguing with those idiots in the Post Office about bits of paper.
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Well at least that scenario would leave the kid alive. Whatever horrible dishonesty he was involved in, or just plain financial incompetence, the poor kid was as innocent as any of ours.
It's quite amazing to me that when so many of these guys can't see a way forward and decide to kill themselves, they take their kids with them. Grotesque that is.
very true its such a cowards way out but to do it to your own flesh and blood is terrible what kind of person does it take to be pushed that far that they do that
And it happens a lot. Remember that guy that jumped off the balcony in Greece was it? He took a couple of little kids in his arms and leaped over into the street about fifty feet and killed one of them. Then there are the ones that gas them all in a car. It's the ultimate self indulgence I think - they are often trying to punish the wife in a break up.
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about �120 a year for yout standard pc box acording to pc pro
or about �220 ish for a full blown gaming rig on 24/7
thats just for the tower, but i guess your pc in the loft is running without a monitor
OMG I pay less than £200 a year on Electric for everything in my flat. If you spend that much electric on one computer a year there must be something wrong with it.
Yeah but don't forget that you wired your flat to that lamp post outside the door.
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He needs to have a heart to heart with his GP, discuss openly the issues and decide how to go forward in the light of the advice he is given. Having depression and anxiety for a bit is a very common mental health issue. It can happen because of external pressures like unreasonable pressures at work or some traumatic event. It doesn't mean the guy is a full blown mentalist does it. If a person has had serious suicidal feelings, or much more worrying, unreasonable outbursts of anger and lack of self control, they ought to stay away from guns and take up golf (with balsa clubs).
If the GP is worried about him and guns, he should take that advice seriously. If not, they maybe could come to an agreement about when the GP would be happy to say his problems are over.
I wish Cornishclay all the best, whatever happens. Twnety five percent of people have some kinds of mental health problems at some time or other. It is very common and mostly, not at all dangerous.
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Well at least that scenario would leave the kid alive. Whatever horrible dishonesty he was involved in, or just plain financial incompetence, the poor kid was as innocent as any of ours.
It's quite amazing to me that when so many of these guys can't see a way forward and decide to kill themselves, they take their kids with them. Grotesque that is.
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LOL
Of course, some people are more magnificent than others in the shooting game. maybe you were at the Olympics OLY.... Is that what 'OLY' stands for maybe.
Since I have just had two glasses of wine with my dinner, I'm going to call Bull wot not on that one. I deny that you can do that with 22lr old chap. Yo maybe could with an inherently accurate centre fire round but not the old 22 eley, which is what I mentioned. 7p a round mass production ammo doesn't do that kind of accuracy....
Of course, you could be joking - yes you must be - sorry that I took it so seriously.
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MY CZ425 with eley subs and a mod is more accurate than my gunsmith says is possible with 22lr. It makes half inch groups at 60 yards on a good day.
If I take off the mod, the POI rises a bit.
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He's got it sorted, the only one's that don't know are plod,
they are still sifting the ashes of the torched motors, to see if they where taxed. :yp:
B)
I expect they had the suicide and 'I'm taking it with me,' scenario sorted in about five minutes as at least one line of enquiry, but unlike us, they don't have the luxury of having a laugh and making up stories without providing the evidence.
I'm sure we all agree that this is damned hard lines on the wife and daughter...
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I don't think I'd do it for £50, what with the price of timber, the trouble of doing it and the public liability insurance you would need for when some dork fell out of it and sued you for causing him to hurt his pride.
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Hi
I am new to all this, having just started to get hooked on clay shooting, but you can not eat clays!
I have not yet got my licence or a gun, but hope to via the like of this site / http://www.pest-rid.co.uk/index.htm as a valid reason for having a gun.
Would be great if anyone in the HOSM (Holme-upon-spalding moor) / Selby/ Driffield/ Market Weighton areas picks this up and can give me some guidance.
Thanks
It doesn't look to me that you will need to pay money to that site to help your case.
You know a lot of farmers already and you are in a clay pigeon club. You already have a good reason to have a shotgun. I'd say you should get yourself a proper gun cabinet and install it correctly (you can find links to firearms security pdfs - probably on the Met Police site - they like it done right so you can't jack it off the wall and so on). While the cabinet is getting sorted, ring up some of your farmer mates and get an invite to shoot pests, and make your application.
If you have some spare cash, you could think of getting into rifle shooting too. I haven't used my shotgun much at all since I got rifles.
You are ideally placed to take up shooting, and if you aren't an ex-bank robber you will have no problem at all. Though there was a sad story yesterday on here of a guy who had some temporary anxiety/depression problem a couple of years back and had his sgc refused.
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it was the butler, in the library.
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got to be the cook, may be she liked a BBQ 
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If this was an Agatha Christie, there would be no drawing room left to sort it all out in and have her confess.
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Look in the sales & put a wanted post for one.
S/H is cheaper.
I'm about to get a 6 rifle cab' & sell my 7 shotty cab'
Have a look here for general info then look at the "list"available for more info.
http://www.brattonsound.co.uk/sentinel.html
I'm going for a RL7 @ £209.
If you want one for rifles with scopes you need one around 12" or 300mm deep or you'll have to put them in sideways, hence my need of a change.
I got a Brattonsound cabinet at the local dealers. It was pretty cost effective and the cops liked it.
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I based mine on this nowhere does it say that with grants it is any cheaper only with renewals
I had to renew my shotgun cert in 2005 and decided to reapply for a FAC (I had one many years ago and let it go when work was too demanding). They did both coterminus for £60.
If in doubt, phone the firearms department. At Northumbria the people are very helpful and approachable for advice.
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They should be kept. If used they will as like as not be corrosive even if not black powder.
An interesting find.
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I have said on here a few times, my CZ groups nice and tight with eley subs. I think eleys are rebadged as something else as well, maybe Winchester - not sure, but its that or remington I think.
I've played around with stingers which hit VERY hard to way out, but the grouping is well bigger. If it hits the bunny's front end though, its dead for sure and often all torn up too, whcih isn't such a good thing unless you are leaving them there as crow bait.
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Some very funny posts there and some good scenarios. Maybe we should write a plot for a new crime series.
The detective could be called Martin Morten.
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ORDER OF EVENTS:
1 Foster goes out and blocks up the drive taking off the wheels of his horse box to impede emergency services when the fire and smoke gets going.
2. Foster returns to house, takes out the rifle and shoots wife and daughter.
3. Foster goes to stable block and shoots horses and dogs.
4. Foster lights up the stables with petrol and sets fire to the cars
5. Foster now returns to the house, places petrol about the place, lights up some peripheral room or hall at front and back giving himself some time by partially closing doors to fire centres, brings in petrol cans chucks it around his wife, stands over her and shoots himself in the head.
6. Fire breaks into central area consuming bodies.
I think the daughter will be found somewhere in the ruins.
Alternately, maybe he told her she'd have to leave her posh school and she went mad snatching up the gun while it was lying around after he'd cleaned it and sht her dad and mother, then she did all the rest and sneaked off across the fields.......... Err no - by now she'd have come back for some grub and been found.
Another nail in the shooter's coffin - Foster shot his wife.
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Well - we can only guess at the condition of the bodies after the fire. Remember that they had to wait ages for the place to cool down. There may be only a few bones lying around with large parts gone to dust. A fire like that can generate very high temperatures, and depending on how the debris fell in on the occupants, some corpses may be in much worse condition than others.
I'd go on record at the ideas that he would have shot his family first. The moment his wife and daughter realised he was shooting the horses and dogs outside, let alone setting fires, they would have called the emergency services. I think he barricaded the place after dumping the horsebox without wheels, firing the outbuildings and cars and chucking petrol around the house. If it were me, I might take some time to get ready to shoot myself, so I might be worried that people would come in and arrest me once alerted by neighbours of the fires outside. When he was ready, he would have lit the house and shot himself in the head.
Anyone who still thinks this was done by gangsters isn't looking at the evidence. What gangster uses a .22 rifle belonging to the victim? Even if they thought he might have used his rifle to hold off the gangsters, how come there are fired and unfired .22 cases strewn all around the grounds?