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Do you wipe your **** standing up or sitting down? Now I DO do that standing!!!!!
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My wife has ******** off with my best mate!
I don`t half miss him!!
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Don`t laugh Will, Mossy doesn`t know!! Ahhhh!!
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I don`t think anyone mentioned that they could shoot better sitting down than standing, or vice versa before BRUK did. It`s horses for courses when you are shooting and you have to lessen the variables to get on terms with your quarry, and if sitting down does it then that`s for me!!
Noted your pic. Wonderful what you can do with Photoshop or an industrial strength corset isn`t it?
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If they don`t come back in less than an hour I`m on the move!!
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You`re still trying to flog the wrong challenge! Both shooting sitting down and both shooting standing up would show some meaningful results. I can do both but you can only do one successfully so, in the field, I have the advantage.
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Apart from gun, hide, deeks etc. you will soon realise that you really DO need that kitchen sink in your bag!!
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Twenty three and a half stone, and you call us lazy and fat because we can shoot sitting down?? What a joke.
You know you can shoot standing up, but we know we can do both, so we have an advantage. Why you must face to the right, if right handed and sitting down, baffles me. With pigeons coming in from any direction surely facing to the front is as good as anything if you can get on to the bird without it seeing you?? I don`t think you understand much about pigeon decoying do you?
Well said M Robson. Adapting to the conditions is what pigeon shooting is all about and those who can`t will shoot less birds. Those of us who have been shooting for some time make it look easy because, after dealing with pigeons and other birds in so many different situations, you learn a thing or two!!
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Cranfield: MM lives in Golders Green, London. He used to work on Minsteracre Estate, Northumberland. He works as a pest control worker in London and has 32 years experience.
He probably calls himself Massmurderer because that`s what some antis call us, and he sees his job as the mass killing of pests?
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Buy a barometer.
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BRUK, Wrong challenge!! Both guns should shoot sitting, and then both standing, then we`d see some results.
The human mind is like a parachute: They both work best when they are OPEN!!!
I`ll keep to my dual shooting positions, which definitely get results, with no need for cammo clothing, except for a face veil. Over the years I`ve found that the more pigeon shooting I do the more easy-peasy it becomes, and being able to shoot sitting down or standing up helps to give me an advantage.
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I see there are cartridges with 30.5 grms of shot!! We must be a gullible lot if we fall for all this half size baloney, which is just a marketing ploy.
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BRUK just because you can`t shoot sitting down don`t call those of us who can lazy and fat!! I never use camo clothes and birds don`t flare, but mostly land, so I must be doing something right.
I`ve been shooting pigeons for many years and I have developed a knack for shooting sitting or standing. There is a time for either method and if you can do both you have an advantage in the field.
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If you`re 70 miles away `hanging on` is not an option! There will never be a right time to shoot the land unless the pigeons are there, and you will be doing fuel in cold blood for no result. Could the farmer/landowner let you know when the pigeons are on the land? Although, knowing farmers, there will always me `millions of pigeons` eating him out of house and home. Even then one day they`ll be there and the next two farms away. I don`t envy you mate, but then I have thousands of acres right on my doorstep, shoot three times a week and STILL spend hours looking for the *******!!
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I find it easy to do both!! I use a metric equivalent of the old five gallon can to sit on, and sometimes stand up, but will often shoot from a sitting position.
I find it all depends on how high I have my netting. With some hedges where you have problems getting a good background the netting is much lower and I shoot sitting all the time. Most of my standing shots are at birds crossing the deeks and bound for a sitty tree, or where they flare because another bird is taking them away from your pattern. You don`t have to show yourself for birds to flare away. Sometimes the lead bird will commit to landing, see his mates going elsewhere, and veer away. That`s my cue to stand up and take the shot.
Being able to shoot sitting down has advantages but being able to do both is ideal.
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Since my last post I`ve had a thought.
You say you`re in a club and that the rules only allow two guns per farm. I`m wondering if these farms are suffering from over shooting?? This might explain pigeons 150 yards away plus their reluctance to come in to decoys. -
Don`t want to keep flogging this but USE REAL PIGEONS!!! Rotaries can be counter productive is some circumstances so I suggest you use your binos to suss out where the pigeons enter the field and watch them for a long time. They will land into the wind most of the time, this includes into trees, so you can verify the wind direction. Be careful which direction you point your decoy pigeons, facing the wind. The ubiquitous horseshoe pattern generally works and don`t forget the three rules: Pigeons need space to land, to see their mates around them and space to get out of trouble.
Try to get things on your side if you can and this means wind and sun at your back. Can`t always do it but this can be an ideal situation. Sun in your eyes and pigeons coming over your hide from the rear can make for an uncomfortable day with pigeons spotting you as they approach. Once you have made your hide establish some in-hide discipline. Put your kit in the same place every time so that you can reach cartridges etc. with ease. Given that you have a reasonable pattern watch every bird as they approach and if they land you have got it right. Anything else and you must try blaming yourself. Stay behind the netting at all times unless you have a bird on its back or in an awkward position, and only leave the hide if a bird veers away. Leave the rotary in your vehicle just in case this is putting them off. Rotaries are not all things to all men and should not be used as a short cut and magic wand to give you a good day`s decoying. Try learning the ropes first!!
If you were nearer to Northants I`d be only too pleased to help out and wouldn`t even bring my gun. Come on lads surely there is someone close by who can help??
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If you have footpaths crossing a field where you MUST control the pigeons etc. I suggest you erect signs at both ends of the path BEFORE it enters the field saying that there is shooting in progress. I was obliged to do this when deer stalking on Forestry Commission land.
Also you should take the opportunity of chatting to any walkers/ramblers to explain what you are doing and perhaps spread the word.
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In my area they don`t touch the rape that is well sown and thick. Probably because it is so wet. They seem to go for rape that is sparsely sown. auto cast or put in with a subsoiler leaving 18" gaps. I have fields that have been well sown and are a carpet of green about 8" high at the moment and I bet the pigeons will leave it alone unless it snows. Other fields of my rape that are more sparse and in stubble have attracted them already, but I believe they are taking spilt grain and chickweed etc.
I`ll need to watch it ALL, over the winter though!!
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Manic choke changing is the norm with some clay shots. There`s even a speed choke spanner available.
I don`t necessarily agree with you PM because, if the novice is told about chokes, then multi choke guns are the way to go for flexibility and resale value. It`s not as if multi chokes are just bells and whistles they are a definite advantage provided they are not used as an excuse for bad shooting.
If a new shooter is missing shots it MIGHT be the chokes that are to blame!!
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Muntjac are not herd animals and are solitary most of the time. They breed on a seven month cycle and as soon as the fawn is dropped the buck will serve her. Youngsters will leave to find their own territory and are made unwelcome. I would expect to find a doe with fawn at foot being courted by one or maybe two bucks but they do not go about in large family groups.
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Don`t think you saw `a large family of muntjac` as these deer breed every seven months and are very territorial, so youngsters find their own ground and don`t live in family groups. You would normally be lucky to find a doe and fawn at foot possible with a buck in tow, waiting to mate.
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The hare is often called PUSS!