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  1. Yeah, gain some experiance al4x, it is a rabbit calibre it does do foxes and has been doing so for over 80 yrs before you came along, not ideal on rabbits but will render them useable. 17 hmr hold 49 ftlb of energy at 200 yds and will fail to expand correctly the Hornet has 187 ft lb at the same range 1.5" less drop and 4" less wind at 10mph. as a result of this and other failings I totally fail to see the HMR as a foxer - like i say so do many police areas!If it had to be a rimfire on FOX and Rabbits the only choice for myself would be the .22WMR at more limited ranges but it doesn't for me and neither does the op's choice need to be so limited if he asks and states his reasons! Now back to those enegy levels why can you shoot rabbits with a 240ft lb hmr when you cant with a 650-700 ft lb hornet? It surely only range dependant, shot placement being equal . I still think its a two gun thing for him though :good: reloading is easy you might find that out someday but you will perhaps need to listen up a bit first. My first FAC as an over 18 granted a .243" win for fox and deer by the way, i know its harder now but far from impossible. I might have had my own Hornet a few weeks but in that time i have put over 100 rounds through it in the fields and have shot with plenty of others using one over the years and have had the good scense to always listen to those more experianced users. then again i have been shooting a heck of a deal longer than some and have the benefit live on a large upland farm miles from anywere. you are of course welcome to your own opinion but exactly how is a .223 rem so superiour as a fox gun? oh sorry you can't answer that as you havent actually owned both calibres have you? :rolleyes: Most foxes being taken below 200yds? Dead is dead you know you can't kill them double or tripple dead. A bit like saying the .243" is a better foxer than a .223" which it undoubtedly is if you need to shoot them at 300 yds and further but at appropriate ranges .223 ranges its just a bigger bang more powder and faster throat erosion

    to be fair a complete waste of time this . whos got this and whos been doing it the longest and i know more than you . time to grow up people .next your tell me that my 22.250 is over kill for foxes ? i have shot more foxes with more calibres than i can think of.i have shot foxes at 300 yards because i know i can . as EXPERIANCE has shown me how . i use a 22.250 as its the best fox calibre you can get .( reloaded ) this is just another post which people defend there rabbit calibres to justify shooting foxes with .use the correct tool for the job .and before i get slated i have been shootin foxes for years and years with the correct calibre . as before give the bloke advice not loads and loads of rubbish for him to take to his feo . as before its going to be a two rifle application . 22rf -17hmr rabbit then larger calibres for foxes (222-223-22.250 centrefire only ) but with most feo they like you to have experiance before the issue you with a centrefire calibre . just wait a few months then re apply . easy .

  2. he is new to rifles and asked for advice . not slagging match . we all know no centrefire rifle is a rabbit calibre it just destroys the quarry.anyone who says its ok should be allowed a rifle , its common sense . the best rabbit gun out there is the 22lr followed by the 17hmr . give the bloke advice thats what he has asked for .after some time using these calibres then apply for a larger calibre to control foxes (centrefire) and i cant see a problem with any feo .i would go for 22lr for rabbits and after a few months apply for a 222,223,or the daddy of fox calibres 22.250 . dont start to understand how to reload your own ammo at the mo just get experience with the calibres first.

  3. if your shots are under 200 yards the .221 fire ball might be the one your looking for more accurate then .22 WMR and .22 hornet and not far behind .222.

    over 200 yards .223/ .22/250 head shots only on rabbit though.

    good luck on applying for a 22.250 to shot rabbits .

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