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I've had a GSG1911 which was fun but poorly made and I now have a K22-xtrim which is by far the nicest pistol I've shot. A few RFD's have shot it too and they say it's.rhe only one they've shot that reminded them of the "good old days". Very very accurate and great to shoot.

I think this rings true for any semi vs the trusty 452 (I have both). My 10/22 was filthy when I bought it, some cleaning and buffing of internal parts with a dremel and at the last count it's on over 1000 cci minimags with 1 fail to feed from a new ruger bx25 mag. You're not going to beat a 452 for accuracy though, or reliability, it's not that kind of gun.

Great guns but the latest version had a lot of the original metal parts made our of polymer instead (it's good enough for glocks ec....). An easy upgrade it the extended mag release and auto bolt release, fifteen quid or less on ebay, the bolt release you can actually do yourself with a dremel if you're so inclined, it's pretty easy. As for what you upgrade on it, depends on what you want out of it, trigger pull can be greatly eased with a bit of manual work on the internal parts, polishing etc, a bigger trigger shoe will help perceived pull and a little set screw installed in the trigger guard will help overtravel. They are a brilliant project gun, probably the best out there in fact in terms of the sheer quantity of bits you can get for them in the uk, they're like the british AR15 in many ways, lots of toys to get for them. It's also a very good gun to learn some gunsmithing on but always be careful to function test at every stage if you're going to be altering any of the internal parts. If anything breaks, getting new bits is dead easy. Try los of different ammo to see what works best, in just about every semi I've had, I've tried ten kinds then ended up with cci minimags as the most reliable usually with top 3 out of ten grouping. I have an older 10/22 that I've done all sorts of litte bits and bobs to internally, for free (aside from a couple of pins I bought) and I've stuck it in a nordic components ar receiver kit with a magpul stock on the back, magpul pistol grip and a railed forend for an angled forgrip, red dot on top. It's completely over the top and unbelievable fun to shoot (I shoot steel plate, practical rifle etc) The magpul stuff was chinese knockoff (aside form the pistol grip which is genuine) and my total spend so far is about £480, a third of the cost of a similar ar15-22 type rifle with all the official dangly bits on it. Have fun with yours, you can turn it into anything from an ar15, purple laminate target gun, wooden steyr aug, bullpup plinker, folding stocks, bull barrels etc etc etc.. The world is your oyster

Basically, if you can afford to buy the panels yourself, you'll make money off them, guaranteed, it'll take many years to pay though. You'll also be able to store the power for use at night. If these guys put them on your roof, they take all the profit from them and you only get to use the power when it's sunny, during the day so still good if you adjust your habits, use appliances during the day, set timers on things, get storage heaters etc. Essentially, if they pay, they take the profit. If you pay, you take it.

HAH! Almost as bad as a long time member trolling and fishing like this on a forum (OMG, I'm adding to it aren't I...). Comments like that are just going to upset people, nothing good ever comes of them, it just contributes to what people lovingly call "the bottom half of the internet" Our lot seem to routinely allow .22 centerfire as a slot, allowing you quite a few options to fill it. It's essentially less admin for them as loads of people can't make up their minds between .223 and 22-250 and end up submitting variations which take up their time....

Completely dependant on your experience and the approach your enquiry officer takes. I've heard time and time again that they like to see 1-2 years of safe rimfire use before they'll allow you a centerfire rifle but your mileage will vary.

What you'd be applying for is a coterminous FAC with your SGC, that means both are granted at the same time and expire at the same time. It's cheaper, easier and less work for the police than two separate applications. If your father is endorsing your application and you have good referees and you have somewhere where you've got permission to shoot then I can't see it being a problem. The police will come round and interview you anyhow, I suspect, though I can't be sure that they'll see your father as sufficient mentoring. Chris.

I was once shooting a .22 air rifle in a barn to sight it in, fired the shot at a flat bit of wood 25 yards away and it zinged back and hit me just above my right eye. Made a great noise but made me think twice about shooting solid oak chunks as a backstop!

Hmm, you're going to have to find out with some careful questioning what her fears are. If for example she's frightened about guns beng used in the home, frightened of accidents, frightened of kids getting hold of them or drunken adults then maybe promising that there will never be any ammunition in the house might help your cause. Guns are a very emotive issue for most non shooters, many people can't think reasonably about them which is completely understandable - 99% of their contact and exposure to guns is of guns as tools of violence, intimidation and murder! If you can render them safe metal tools with no ammunition then it might help? $0.02! Good luck mate.

There is a fair bit of perfectly legal target pistol shooting still goes on, we use Long Barreled Pistols and Long Barreled Revolvers. These guns have a long slightly daft dirty harry looking barrel and a metal arm that comes off the bottom of the grip with a counterweight or arm brace on it. .44 magnum, .357 etc are pretty common in the revolver category and in semi auto .22LR there are the Browning Buckmark pistols and a few others, notably a lovely little Colt 1911. The sport is still ther but only shot by a minority. I've also heard that there might be plans to ban these kinds of pistols and some people, when applying for a slot for one (it's not just a .22lr slot, it's specific) have ahd to sign a form agreeing that if a ban comes into effect they must surrender their pistols without compensation. Additionally there are clauses on the slot on your FAC that prohibit you from allowing any other person, even an FAC holder to even touch, never mind fire the pistol. Still, if you're hell bent on shooting pistols, you can! chris.

That's the one!! sold by a british couple, great scopes not the cheapest but that's not a bad thing!

It depends if the serial number of your moderator and brand etc are listed on your certificate. a lot of certificates just list a .22 moderator of unknown brand in which case you can surrender it to a friendly local dealer and he can sell you a new one. Call your local shop for advice as it'll depend on your constabulary and how they like to handle things. Chris.

Your best bet is to go to one of the bigger shops with lots of scopes set up on stock blanks and see what you like the look of. You can spent thousands on scopes but these days something perfectly capable of giving you a clear sight picture and 3-12 magnification can be had for around £100 or less. If you plan to shoot at a variety of ranges between 25 and 125 yards, a variable parallax scope would be a good bet, this allows you to set the distance at which the crosshairs are in focus and also helps as a range estimation tool with a bit of practice. With those loopy .22 rounds I've found scopes with mildot reticules really handy, I zero mine at 20 yards and it's also zero'd at 70 with my rifle and ammo, with two dots below giving me 125 yards etc. In the end, at the under £150 mark, you're either going to get reasonable glass in your scope or lots of features so get the simplest one you can with good optics in it, illuminated reticules and the like aren't worth the candle unless you do a lot of shooting in low light. Hawke and Nikko Sterling make pretty good scopes for the money. There is also a british firm that have started making scopes, run by a couple, really well rated, cant recall their name or find them on google! Chris.

Thanks everyone, through half an hour of googling I never seemed to find treetops or Ian Coley, despite them both being the closest!