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As above, I'm after some magtech .410 brass cases... oh and a few hens teeth if anybody has any.
Seems the UK stock has dried up and I don't fancy fire-forming cases.
Thanks a bunch!
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Cracking job mate, a lovely buck! You've just reminded me that the freezer is empty and I fancy roast muntjac haunch. I guess I know what I'll be doing tomorrow evening...
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Shows the power of a .22 I've spoke to a lad earlier in the week who,s just applied for his fac and was saying to how a .22 rim fire is similar power to an fac air rifle, i,'ll show him that pic
Yes it's the most under-estimated round in existence. 200ftlb is nothing to sneeze at and is in another league from most fac air rifles! Pyramyd Air .50 calibre air rifles are available now though if the lad can write a convincing variation application.
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Hi all, I've just been
deleting evidencefreeing up some memory on the camera and found a few pics which might be of marginal interest to folks around here.Well I'd been disputing with a mate whether a .22LR would shoot through a sheet of 7mm aluminium I had lying around, so in the interests of science and winning a bet, we headed off to shoot some stuff...
So from 50m, a subsonic .22 stuck in the sheet and left a dimple on the back, the supersonic .22 very nearly pushed right through and finally, the .243 just kept on trucking (no surprises there).
Next up is our valiant attempt at a 2.5L turbo pigeon hide. The pigeons and rabbits responded well to our efforts, dog walkers and the general public on the other hand...
Last, but not least is the beautiful sunset that I was treated to while roost shooting last night. Saw more bats than pigeons but a nice evening to be alive nonetheless.
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Lyalvale now produce fibre .410 shells as of early August. I looked on various sites, but cannot find a stockist.
Now that's interesting! About time another factory gave eley a bit of competition in that niche, perhaps we'll see a .410 price war between them. A man can only dream...
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Have you used the eley 12.5g cartridges, as a comparison ? .. lm curious to know if there is a noticeable difference ..
I've used both and settled on the lyalvale - they are definitely faster and add a few yards to your range. The eley fourlong are weak even by 410 standards but are the absolute quietest when moderated (suspect they are subsonic). If it's important to you, the eley use a waxed cork wad, lyalvale use plastic. In the absence of my 12gauge, lyalvale 16gram is my workhorse cartridge though.
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As others have said, buckshot patterns are terrible beyond 20 yards or so. I've never had a single fox run on when hit with 36g BB (eley alphamax) but probably #1 or #3 shot would be a better size for pellet count vs penetration. They wouldn't notice if it was a 50g magnum load either, but you certainly would. That said, if your fields are safe to launch buckshot in and you're serious about reducing foxes, a .22cf would seem a sound investment?
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Just ordered more or less the same thing from eBay. Would have been way cheaper to buy from China but I wanted it now...
It won't even be close to the same thing from ebay at £30 posted, trust me the spec of lens and LED is different. I make zero profit from selling these at this price.
Anyway, this thread did remind me that I've got enough new spare parts from various projects to put two more of these kits together and then that's me done as I now solely use NV. If anybody is interested - £30 posted each will take them.
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They're worth less than most people are charging, put it that way, but somewhere around £400 is the going rate. A search on guntrader or gunstar is the best place to start.
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Have I slipped into an alternative dimension, is this a new language I have to learn, I was thinking of going for my FAC but dont know if I can cope with this new language. LOL
The beauty of pastimes like shooting is that the pool is as deep or as shallow as you want it to be. No need to jump in at the deep end, just learn enough of the firearms law to stay safe and let the finer details of guns, ammo, fieldcraft and cooking develop with time. Remember there's more than one way to skin a cat, and about 500 ways to shoot it. -
Very nice and yes a 357 would be plenty.....it would be plenty for most things in Britain but to many experts got involved in the law making!
I remember talking to an old Gent, long gone now
He told me that before the deer act he used an old levergun in 44-40 for all deer in Britain and said it was ample!There is a lot to be said for a handy rifle with out the phaffing of sticks and moderator, rarely more than 20grains of powder burning in stead of 40+.
Nice munti
I might send a .357 ballistic table to the FEO showing that it easily makes 1000ftlbs from a carbine and see what he thinks. Sounds like your old boy with his 44-40 knew that energy is no substitute for straight shooting though.
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Thanks a lot for the feedback chaps!
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I peeled back the curtains at 6.30am to find a dry morning already in full swing and as I was heading out to survey some young coppice, I grabbed the .243 which in the absence of a deer fence, is good medicine for the greedy blighters. So by 7.30 I was neck deep in nettles and wishing I'd brought a brushcutter instead of a rifle. Less than 20 minutes had passed though before I spotted a young muntjac buck browsing along a ride just 60 yards or so downhill to my left.
A standing free-hand shot is something I rarely use when stalking but I was confident to put the home-loaded sierra varminter where it needed to go from this short range. Once I've used all of these 85gr spitzers though, I'll be looking for a harder bullet as they are just too violent on an animal that compares more to a hare than a typical deer in size. I can't help thinking that a .357 lever gun would be perfect for woodland muntjac stalking.
So with "work" finished by lunchtime and a dinner party tomorrow, he's already jointed and it's time to put my feet up for a long weekend. Even though I've given the front end away, you can see from this picture that you don't get an awful lot from these diminutive deer. They still make for challenging stalking, easy carrying and good eating though.
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note (1) some airguns can really only be proven safe by pointing them in a safe direction and pulling the trigger as you cannot look down the barrel from the safe end
Fair point Kent. "Safe direction" in this case probably shouldn't include over the counter into a busy shop though. Anyway, I agree it's difficult sometimes and I wasn't there so I'll get off my high horse now.
Id be intrested if you find the name of that shop in kiddy to please,atb
simon
Simon, I still can't find the name (I just know it as the weird radio gun shop) but the gun shop is located at:
28 Comberton Hill
Kidderminster
Worcestershire
DY10 1QN
I had a chat with James at Hartlebury Shooting and he's a pleasant fella. Seems to focus on .50BMG and serious long range stuff but has a fairly good selection of standard fodder and is happy to order stock in. Nice to have a few local shops to keep eachother in order and prices some way sensible.
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It wont be the first accidental discharge of an air weapon in a gunshop and wont be the last. They are so darn hard to check positively clear some of these guns ( and customers will hand you loaded guns).
You're right Kent and we're all human - I once nearly shot my foot off with a 12 guage while rough shooting on slippy ground and I have caught a pellet from an air rifle too. The fact remains though that a stray air rifle pellet is potentially just as lethal as a .308, so it comes down to those four cardinal rules and if we all followed them whether at home alone or in a shop full of customers, tragic accidents could be avoided. Military/police etc. are obvious exceptions to these rules.
I don't mean to patronise folks here but I might as well list those rules now that I've mentioned them. If anybody's grandmother needs egg sucking lessons, I can help with that too.
1) All guns are always loaded until proven safe
2) Never let your muzzle cover anything that you are not willing to destroy
3) Keep your finger off the trigger and out of the guard until ready to shoot
4) Be sure of your target and what's beyond it
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Hmmm, that would look nice above the reloading bench. Is it mounted on wood or loose?
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Could look into a "pulsar challenger" set up for that money. Attaches to the rear of your day scope, so you don't need two rigs and no re-zeroing. Quite a few folks seem to use them to good effect but I don't have any personal experience with one.
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Interesting replies lads
Its on hartlebury trading est. The guy in shop is really friendly and helpful, and if they haven't got what your looking for they can normally get it for you. Ive had a lot of reloading items and just had a vortex scope from him to.
Its well worth a look if your close to
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simon
Thanks for the heads-up simon. I didn't know about that shop - I'll check it out.
For the local lads; there's also a perculiar little gun shop in kidderminster which is also a CB radio shop. The name escapes me but google should turn something up. They stock a load of rifles, shotguns, airguns, ammo, mods etc. The chap is wildly eccentric and made quite a mess of my FAC last time, so have a plan of escape before you go in but to my knowledge, he hasn't ever shot a customer.
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Hi folks,
I apologise if this is ancient news around here by now, but were any of you who use bromsgrove shooting supplies aware of their accident in January and do you continue to use them? I use them pretty frequently despite some staff there being dangerously short of knowledge but I've never heard anything about this until now:
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/redditch-shopper-hurt-air-rifle-6594919
I've got to say I find that accident worrying but not too surprising after recent service there. I've whitnessed some un-nerving gun handling at the shop before and will stop using them in light of this. Why people find it so hard to follow the four cardinal rules of gun safety is beyond me.
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one less crook carrying an illegle firearm on the streets of england seems to me the police are doing a good job
That's a slippery slope holly. If the police had a 100% successful history of correctly identifying either criminals or the actual presence of firearms, maybe. If we allow police the power to execute people without trial, we might as well stop doing a half-***** job and put together a proper list for them.
In all seriousness though, we either have a police force working for the public within the law or we don't. If it's really so bad that we don't, let me carry an MP5 too and I'll protect myself thanks. -
This case stinks almost as bad as the Met's shooting of de Menezes.
The "Facts" presented are that two officers at less than 10 yards clearly identified a pistol which was drawn from Duggan's waist band and levelled at them. One officer proceeded to fire one shot. Duggan was not instantly incapacitated and retained the pistol so was shot a second time which proved fatal. The officers immediately approached Duggan to secure the weapon which had now disappeared. It later reappeared 20 feet away, in a sock, the other side of a railing. There is a video recorded from a nearby apartment which appears to show just how miraculous their "find" was.
This lawful killing verdict conveniently makes a repeat riot less likely which is one saving grace but it is also a terrible error of impunity.
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Having witnessed a mate's recent application process and having had chats with various office bods during my own variations etc; if nothing in your application requires further investigation, West Mercia at the moment will take about 1 week to cash cheques, 1 ~ 2 months to arrange interview, then about 3 weeks for processing. Land checks can extend this. Make sure EVERYTHING is correct on your application and take note that sometimes their website produces application documents with important sections missing such as signature boxes! Also make sure your referees are available and expecting a call. Don't be tempted to phone their office every day and don't ever give them the impression you're getting short tempered with them. I'd wager it'll take around 3 months. Get it sent off pronto then get on with your life. Checking your postbox twice a day is bad for your health!
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Hi all,
For sale is my Night Detective NDP5 5x50 gen 1+ night vision monocular. This isn't a cheap chinese unit, it's top quality Russian gear. Excellent condition with very little use. Features built-in IR illuminator and offers impressive clarity out to 200m and good vision well beyond. With box, instructions and carry case.
Reason for selling; Whilst it can't be denied that night vision is sorcery for vermin, my mates don't use it and I find it a bit lonely these days all on my tod.
£115 posted
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thanks all for comments....
i may just try it with iron sights as i will only ever use it for under 30 yards...any more and the hmr will be out....
Nice shooting, looks like a productive morning! Don't under-sell the .22 though, you can at least triple that range. I don't risk shooting the .22 around yards anymore though, it can start to sound like a spaghetti western; (bang... peeeeyowmmmmmmmmmmm)
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.410 black powder reloading is quite a place to start! If you do start loading black powder, it's even more crucial than smokeless reloading to seek someone experienced to get you going. One confusion of dram mass, dram volume or drachm and it could be the last we see of you. It's only simple rocket science though and could be quite a nice project.