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I have never picked up a fibre wad with shot embedded in it. A hard card on top of a fibre driving wad may result in more lead pellets being deformed on firing due to the set back forces squashing more pellets. Not seen any 6mm nitro cards available so in these circumstances if using the components the OP has i would double up on the 3mm nitro cards then fibre driving wad with shot on top of that. The thin black capping on fibre wads is plastic, but not necessary as Eley used to use wads without it. It’s like suddenly stopping a car all the contents of the car travel forward, same with the wad, its velocity quickly drops to zero but the heavy shot travels on forward leaving the wad behind.

or preferably first 3mm nitro card, 2nd 3mm nitro card and then 18mm fibre wad, then shot.

Not sure how you are delivering them for £6 as they are hazardous goods and cannot be sent by post, C&G and FES want a lot more than £6 to deliver primed cases. As you are in Kent why not try FES as they are also in Kent they may buy them from you.

These are the Jocker wads, similar concept to the Gamebore type that Clay and Game sell. Compared to injection moulding they must be expensive to manufacture. Five additional years to find a proper replacement to the good old faithful lead shot fibre wads at comparable cost.

Both Jocker and Gamebore did or are offering them it’s just down to availability one assumes, then price.

The labour election manifesto showed £20 million from full cost recovery of firearms licensing fees but not to improve the service but to reduce knife crime, so do not believe a word they are saying.

This is an interesting read https://guncite.com/journals/okslip.html

Problem is the cartridge manufactures are struggling with component supply issues due to Covid and wars, so until normally returns they have their hands tide. Fortunately we hopefully have five years.

They will not buy back unsuitable firearms, it’s not like the pistol ban and every shotgun can use bismuth. plus they took years to pay out on the pistol ban.

The future for clay shooting 😊

i am sure champagne corks have been popping within certain organisations, like WJ and some we must not mention. But probably not at the CPSA.

Exactly clay shooting is paying the price to make commercial game shooting tenable. Some will say its are own fault by not enthusiastically embracing the five year voluntary transition, others will say it is the five year voluntary transition idea that has helped the HSE reach the conclusion that the use of all lead shot is bad, even that at clay ground venues. Indeed agenda at work.

about as effective as the labels on cigarette packs, smoking kills, but many still smoke. Then if that works for bullets, why not allow lead shot within the very small area of land used by bonafide clay grounds, with suitable labels, “Must not be used for live quarry shooting.”

Have updated the link, hopefully works now.

Possibly five years, may be less, then total ban on all lead shot. https://www.hse.gov.uk/reach/restrictions/rr-aavi-0821.pdf