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  6. New regulations on licensing

    in General Shooting Matters

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    30 minutes ago, CharlieT said:

    The new Statutory Guidance indicates that it will be the police who contact the applicants GP requesting medical info.

     

    Medical  information required by  the  police    

    2.26  When  a  person  applies  for a  firearm  or shotgun  certificate  the  police  will  ask the  applicant’s GP  to:  

    (i) (ii) confirm  whether or not  the  applicant  is or  has  been  treated  for any relevant  medical condition  which  could  affect  their  ability  to  possess a  firearm  safely;  and   place  a  firearm  reminder code  on  the  applicant’s patient  record  and confirm  that  they  have  done  so.

    2.27  GPs should  not  be  asked  to  give  general access to  an  applicant’s  medical record.  Nor should  they  be  asked  to  either  endorse  or  oppose  applications. Responsibility  for the  decision  about  whether  a  person  is suitable  to  be granted  a  certificate  lies with  the  police,  not  the  GP. Relevant  medical  conditions

    2.28  Relevant  medical conditions include:  

    (i) (ii) (iii) (iv) (v) (vi) (vii) (viii) (ix) Acute  Stress  Reaction  or an  acute  reaction  to  the  stress  caused  by  a trauma;   suicidal thoughts  or  self-harm; depression  or  anxiety; dementia; mania,  bipolar disorder  or a  psychotic illness;   a  personality  disorder; a  neurological condition:  for  example,  Multiple  Sclerosis,  Parkinson’s or Huntington’s diseases,  or  epilepsy; alcohol  or drug  abuse;  and any  other  mental  or physical condition  which  may  affect  the  safe possession  of  firearms  or shotguns.  

     Payment  of a  fee

    2.29  In  any  case  where the  GP  requests  that  a  fee  be  paid  in  advance  of responding  to  the  police  request  for information,  this is a  matter  between  the applicant  and  his or her GP.  It  is  not  an  issue  that  the  police  should  become involved  in.  

    If the  GP  does  not provide  the  information requested the  certificate should not  be  issued 

     If the  GP  declines  to  engage  with the  police

    2.30  The  provision  of  relevant  medical information  from  an  applicant’s GP  is necessary  in  order to  determine  the  level of  risk to  public safety  arising  from the  grant  of  a  certificate.  The  certificate  should  not,  therefore,  be  granted  or renewed  if  this information  is not  provided.  The  police  should  follow  the procedure set  out  below.

    2.31  Following  the  initial approach  to  the  applicant’s GP,  if  the  police  receive  no response  within  21  days  and  it  is not  known  why  this is the  case,  the  police should  consider sending  a  reminder to  the  GP.  

    2.32  If  a  reminder is sent  and  the  GP  still fails to  engage,  the  police  should  inform the  applicant: a)  that  this is  the  case;   b)  that  the  application  cannot  be  progressed  in  the  absence  of  a response  from  the  GP;  and   c)  that  the  application  will  therefore  be  put  ‘on  hold’ pending  receipt  of the  required  information  from  the  GP.

    2.33  The  application  can  be  held  for a  period  not  exceeding  six  months,  after which  the  applicant  should  be  informed  that  it  has lapsed. II.  If the  GP  has  a  conscientious  objection to firearms  

    2.34  If  the  GP  indicates to  the  police  that  he  or she  is unwilling  to  respond because  they  have  a  conscientious  objection  to  the  possession  of  firearms, the  applicant  should  be  encouraged  to  pass  the  request  to  another GP  in  the same  practice,  or in  another  practice  where  practical,  who  may  be  willing  to respond  to  the  request.  In  the  unlikely  event  that  no  GP  in  the  practice  or local area  is  prepared  to  respond,  the  applicant  may  need  to  consider moving  to  a  different  GP  practice.  If  they  do  not  wish  to  change  their  GP practice,  the  applicant  should  discuss  with  the  police  whether it would  be acceptable  to  obtain  a  copy  of  their  medical information  from  the  GP  practice for consideration  by  the  force  medical officer  or by  a  private  GP. III. If the  GP  indicates  that there  are  medical  issues  

    2.35  Where  the  GP  indicates that  there are  relevant  medical issues  but  does not provide  further  details,  the  police  should  ask the  applicant  to  contact  their  GP to  obtain  a  report about  these  medical issues.  If  the  GP  requires a  fee  to  be paid  for providing  such  a  report, this will be  payable  by  the  applicant.  If, following  receipt  of  the  above  report, the  police  have  concerns  about  any  of the  medical information  given  or wish  to  obtain  a  more  detailed  report, they may  request  this  from the  GP  or, if  appropriate,  a  relevant  specialist.  The police  should  meet  any  costs  associated  with  the  provision  of  this additional report.

    2.36  If  the  applicant  has  declared  a  relevant  medical condition  on  the  application form  the  police  may  ask the  applicant  to  obtain  and  pay,  if  required,  for a medical report  to  assist  with  their  consideration  of  medical suitability.  If  a further  medical report is required,  the  police  will  pay  for this. The  role  of Local  Medical  Committees

    2.37  Good  working  relationships  between  the  police  and  local  GPs will help  to ensure  effective  information  sharing  arrangements  in  the  best  interests  of  the efficacy  of  the  local  firearms  licensing  arrangements.

    2.38  Engagement  with  the  Local Medical Committee  can  help  to  secure  a consistent  set  of  arrangements  in  place  across a  local  area  within  the  context of  the  framework set  out  above.  For example,  if  all  parties  are in  agreement to  developments  or innovations that  help  to  speed  up  application  processes without  compromising  public safety,  this is likely  to  be  acceptable,  provided that  any  variations  from  the  processes  described  in  this guidance  are delivered  on  a  voluntary  basis, and  that  the  procedures  described  here are adhered  to  if  any  concerns  are  expressed  by  the  applicant. 

    So if I refuse to pay the fee they will wait 21 days and issue my license like before ?

  9. SXS and standard steel

    in Guns & Equipment

    Posted

    45 minutes ago, Old Boggy said:

    Andrew,

    I would be pleased to know if and where you obtain standard steel cartridges in 16 bore. I too shoot 16 bores and have struggled to get standard steel, only HP steel which I’m reluctant to use in my 16s.

    Thanks in advance of any reply.

    OB

     

    But not 16 bores I’m guessing 

    I've found these boggy not sure eid there standard or the HP steel https://www.justcartridges.com/product/supreme-steel-16ga-2/

  10. SXS and standard steel

    in Guns & Equipment

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Scully said:

    If I was just using standard steel I’d leave the chokes as is. 

     

    47 minutes ago, Gerry78 said:

    Standard steel will have no problems through your chokes I wouldn’t touch it 

    So it definitely won't cause issues then there's plenty of people saying it will on the net some guessing it's just a load of **** then 

  11. SXS and standard steel

    in Guns & Equipment

    Posted

    12 minutes ago, Blueflame said:

    Hi Andrew,  I didn’t see that clearly,  I presume your gun is a 16 guage then? Either way the star marks indicate the choke constriction when proofed. 

    Yes it is a 16 half and full will get that checked make sure it hasn't been messed with.

  12. SXS and standard steel

    in Guns & Equipment

    Posted

    13 minutes ago, Blueflame said:

    Hi Andrew, the photos don’t show all the information. Looking at the 1200 bar figure I would expect the gun to be 3” /76mm chambers. It looks as if there is a single star mark on the left barrel and 3 stars on the right barrel which indicate full choke in the left & half choke in the right barrel. Half choke is the recommended maximum for steel shot, so the left barrel would be to tightly choked for steel shot. 

    To avoid any doubt I would take the gun to a proper gunsmith who can measure the choke constriction in the barrels for confirmation. If you need the chokes opened out it’s not that expensive, and a lot safer than risking your gun and more importantly yourself. 

    It's got 16/70 stamped on the flats so I took it for 70mm chambers 

  22. Gun fit and cost of having work done

    in Guns & Equipment

    Posted

    I brought a kofs 12 bore last year and haven't been getting along with it very well after seeking advice from someone with a bit more knowledge about shotguns I pattern tested a few different cartridges and they all patterned well. How much of the rib should I be seeing is the question as I can see all the way down it and he thinks I need the Combe dropped? 

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