Shotkam

Thanks for the info - that's great. Just goes to show then - Thankyou.

Most do not get above 40 percent here. - keep it up.

Some great wisdom there thankyou. Yes I agree with the birds love clean water even if it just open drinkers. We are top of the vermin, but need to invest heavily in seed bearing cover crops. I hope you are having a great season - certainly sound good.

What percentage is the mix in the Wheat ?

So every other day works for you and probably just enough to have it cleared up within 24 hours. What seed mix do you use ? That is a valuable point, as birds like a varied diet the same as a lot of birds. Thankyou.

Thankyou. A Keeper is sure to see this post and provide us all with all we need to know about trail feeding. We all know you only get out what you put in to a Shoot and the Shoot ground needs to be more attractive to the birds than everything that surrounds it.

I am connected with a Syndicate Shoot putting down 1500 Pheasants. At present there are only hoppers and the birds do stray off the Shoot ground more than they should. The idea of a Quill trail feeded in the back of the ATV seems a possible part solution combined with additional mixed cover crops. The person doing the trail feeding need to be paid, so I am asking advice on wether feeding every other day would be acceptable combined with the existing feed hoppers and drinkers there are at present. I know of 1 large commercial shoot with 3 beats that does trail feed 'every other day' but I have no personal experience. Any advice of any kind would be a great help to working towards improving the Shoot.

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Yes

That is exactly what I have seen Teague recommend on several occasions for heavier loads.

I tend to agree and moving away from BG for that exact reason

I have used a 12 all my life exclusively and 20 for last 3 years. I can't see me going back to a chunky heavier 12 even though cartridges are far less costly. Probably put 10, 000 through my 36 year old Browning.

An Estate where I shoot there was a team of 'old money' guns last season and the best shots in the team were using 28G No 6 fibre and those birds were right up there. One gun killed the 1st 5 stone dead. I thought at the time - 'there's a message here'

Interesting, Hull HPE No 6 being a 5 1/2 will of course give you the densest pattern out of several of the leading brands for birds up to circa 50 yards so I will start with them.

No but interesting comments thankyou. I shoot on hilly ground, but even so the vast majority are not a true 50 yards above your head, some are of course and they are not average tree toppers. Hull High Pheasant are true English sizes whereas the Extreme are 1/2 a shot size larger so less pellets per oz.