mr_jack Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 (edited) here is all my gear http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/6996/img06231wa.jpg i have been using these pellets http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/6406/img06415kp.jpg Edited August 20, 2005 by mr_jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 Good set up mate. Thats a lot of pellets there! Do you use all of them or just stick to the ones that work best in your rifle? I used to use accupells but moved over to H&N field trophies because they seemed to work better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_jack Posted August 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 i use the rws super domed and verminpell in my ratty, with pin point accuracy at 15 yards with both pellet brands, my chosen limit for rat bashing, ,rws super domed and bisley super field in my stingray k the air arms are also quite acurrate in my stingray, but half of the tin was damaged, so i was gettin a fair few flyers and my poi was all over the place with them, so i probley wont buy them again... anyone use these air arms field? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 anyone use these air arms field? I have never tried them. I was told by the importers of my Weihrach what usually worked so thats what I stuck to and narrowed it down that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roblade Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 HIJACK (im sory i couldnt help it the voices made me type it LOL) welcome to the forum nice little selection of rifles you have there just reminded me of an addition i have to another thread about the stingray (used to own one) excellent litlte rifle thopugh could do with having a silencer added, as it alread has a screw cut barrel just a case of getting one pleanty out there to choose from as for the admagaed air arms pellets a few months ago air arms were having a lot of QC problems with the pellets if you contact air arms direct using either the telephone number or email (though emaisl do take a while to be read), give them the batch number (on underside of the tin) and tell them when they were bought. They might sort you out another tin, but more importantly they need to know about the problems people are having with them! other wise they cant sort out the problems they dont know about. If you liek the AA field but dont want to try them again give webley lazadomes a try or Daystate FT or even JSB exacts (they are all made by the same company (JSB) and have far fewer QC problems. just dont expect any damaged or deformed pellet to be accurate, you may find that a decent tin of AA field will out perfom most other pellets out there, and the bis mags may be a little too heavy for a springer running at under 12F/Lbs (this is from experiance with the stingray). dont think you will have many problems with any of the rifles you got there each one good for a job and lots of fun to boot too. All the best ROB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roblade Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 anyone use these air arms field? I have never tried them. I was told by the importers of my Weihrach what usually worked so thats what I stuck to and narrowed it down that way. dont always belive what your told in the shop, maybe thats the best mark up on the pellet sales? give some of the others a try you may be suprised by the results have seen a HW57 shoot pretty damn well with AA Fileds (compared to other pellets) ROB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_jack Posted August 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 thanks rob i never thought about contacting airarms about the pellets, i will have to drop them a line, hopefully i may get another tin? maybe... the stingrays only a few weeks old, but shoots very nice with good power for woodys & pies i dont find it to loud myself but some ppl may do.... i have just bought a logun carbon fibre silencer for my ratty and recently added a nice walther 4x32 scope i also pack a bisley scope to maglite adaptor for my rat bashing equipment, this setup is very light and packs a punch.... has anyone got or used the logn carbon fibre silencer for the ratty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 dont always belive what your told in the shop, maybe thats the best mark up on the pellet sales? give some of the others a try you may be suprised by the results have seen a HW57 shoot pretty damn well with AA Fileds (compared to other pellets) Thanks for the advice, but I spoke to Hul Cartridge on the phone and got the pellets from the nearest shop to me that sold them! There was no conection between the two. I also bought a tin of RWS super domes(?) and the were absolutely terrible! It was grouping at twice the size of the trophies. FOR SALE 1 tin slightly used RWS super domes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilv Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 i use the rws super domed and verminpell in my ratty, with pin point accuracy at 15 yards with both pellet brands, my chosen limit for rat bashing, ,rws super domed and bisley super field in my stingray k the air arms are also quite acurrate in my stingray, but half of the tin was damaged, so i was gettin a fair few flyers and my poi was all over the place with them, so i probley wont buy them again...anyone use these air arms field? Brilliant in my TX200 if I could only hold the ****** up. I'm thinking of having some kind of cantilever vest made so my arms don't get too tired, that, or either a pilon strapped to my back so I could hang the rifle down the front like a crane jib. It's an ******* heavy bit of kit that as I'm trudging about the slopes of my mountain shootin. I checked on a map yesterday and found that the 1155 ft contour goes through the farmhouse and theres at least another 200 feet above that level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roblade Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 Hi again When i had my stingray xs or xl cant rember which it was now, i had a chance to compare it to an unsilenced one and i had always thought a silencer on a springer was a waste of time before that. But hearing them side by side (not with me shooting) was able to tell the silencer made a huge difference to the noise level down range. as for the silencer if its anything like the standard logun i dont think you will be dissapointed if its got the 1/2UNF thread give it a try on the stingray all the best ROB PS whats the bottom rifle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 (edited) i use the rws super domed and verminpell in my ratty, with pin point accuracy at 15 yards with both pellet brands, my chosen limit for rat bashing, ,rws super domed and bisley super field in my stingray k the air arms are also quite acurrate in my stingray, but half of the tin was damaged, so i was gettin a fair few flyers and my poi was all over the place with them, so i probley wont buy them again...anyone use these air arms field? Brilliant in my TX200 if I could only hold the ****** up. I'm thinking of having some kind of cantilever vest made so my arms don't get too tired, that, or either a pilon strapped to my back so I could hang the rifle down the front like a crane jib. It's an ******* heavy bit of kit that as I'm trudging about the slopes of my mountain shootin. I checked on a map yesterday and found that the 1155 ft contour goes through the farmhouse and theres at least another 200 feet above that level. Evilv get your self a cheater sling the gun hangs across the front and all the weight is on your shoulders i have been useing one now for 2 years on my NV rifle.They are brilliant. B) B) Edited August 21, 2005 by hawkeye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 i had always thought a silencer on a springer was a waste of time before that. But hearing them side by side (not with me shooting) was able to tell the silencer made a huge difference to the noise level down range. I was told the same thing. I had a hell of a job finding somewhere that would do a silencer conversion for the HW57. When I did it was really not worth the money to do it (or so I thought!) . I wonder if it would be worth having a second thought on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roblade Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 hi snakebite the best way you could quieten your little 57 down would be to spend the money on tuning it out as this will make the rifle nicer to shoot as well as quieting the action noise down. ROB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 I was told the same thing. I had a hell of a job finding somewhere that would do a silencer conversion for the HW57. When I did it was really not worth the money to do it (or so I thought!) .I wonder if it would be worth having a second thought on it. With all your engineering knowledge and experience im sure you could make something up, all beit temporary, to test this out. If you find it does make a difference then you know the investment is wise. I'm more than happy to lend you a Moderator if you want to try. Regards, Axe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Mr jack is that a crosman magnum at the bottom of ur air rifles and is it any good ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 With all your engineering knowledge and experience im sure you could make something up, all beit temporary, to test this out. If you find it does make a difference then you know the investment is wise. I'm more than happy to lend you a Moderator if you want to try. Thanks for the offer but I am a little wary on doing somthing to it myself A) because whilst being physically able to do I do not know what to do, I am nervous about the idea of messing around with a fire arm (all be it a 12lb air rifle) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 hi snakebite the best way you could quieten your little 57 down would be to spend the money on tuning it out as this will make the rifle nicer to shoot as well as quieting the action noise down. ROB How much would a tune cost approx? Where would I go? The biggest problem though is I don't want to be without the rifle for too long!! Thanx for the advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 If you do decide to send it away to be tuned you can borrow one of my rifles Snakebite, for the interim. Regards, Axe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roblade Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 well my local gunsmith charges about £60 for a decnet tune up but he does a top dog job. if you really want to spend some money you could send it away to venom and they can do miracles weith a HW rifle, they charge about £150 for the top tune. though you can pick up a second hand venom tuned rifle for baout £200-250 which may be the cheaper option. But have a chat with local gun shops and see if they can recomend any decent gun smiths in your area. ROB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 For that sort of money, i'd think it more prudent to sell the rifle and upgrade to a PCP. Just my opinion. Regards, Axe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 I would never sell my springer to finance a PCP. I would keep it as a back up. If it does get a tune up then that would be so much the better. I might have a word with my local shop and see what they say. If I book it in far enough in advance maybe I can wait whilst they do it Doesn't take that long does it? What does a "tune up" entail exactly? It is only 6 months old but has not been touched after it was checked by Hull Cartridge. Does it NEED a tune up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Check out the website and give em a call. Venom Tuning Regards, Axe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roblade Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 (edited) If I book it in far enough in advance maybe I can wait whilst they do it Doesn't take that long does it? What does a "tune up" entail exactly? It is only 6 months old but has not been touched after it was checked by Hull Cartridge. Does it NEED a tune up? Firstly dont confuse a tune up with getting a rifle repaired! easy way to discribe it would be: you buy a car, theres nothing wrong with the car, but you take it in for a service and ask for top of the range parts to be fitted, dosnt make the car any faster just makes it a little smoother and more economical to drive. there is a fair bit of work doing a tune up if any parts need replacing it may have to be ordered anmd that would only be found out when the rifle is stripped so more than likly it would take a couple of days at least. as to what it entails it could be anything from a quick relube, to replacing the spring, fitting some form of bearings (to remove metal to meatal friction), replacing plastic spring guide with metal one (removes the twang), replacing all seals and washers (makes sure all the air gets behind the pellet), as well as lubing up all the important parts (makes sure everything runs nice and smooth). All the above means that it will run more efficiantly, a little more smoother and a lot quieter when shooting. Would have to say though the HW57 would not be my fist choice of a rifle to have the full works done to it, mainly becasue of the pop up breech, as you will loose air from that point no matter what you do to the rifle. But it will benefit from any form of tuneing done to it. The only other rifle i woulddnt consider having the venom work done to it would be the TX range as they have metal spring guides and synthetic bearings as well as a decent spring already fitted, which is why they are considered one of the best out the box springers you can get. ROB PS NO RIFLE NEEDS A TUNE UP NO MATTER HOW OLD!!! Edited August 22, 2005 by roblade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Sound nice! Tempted for sure. But can I do with out my rifle fo a couple of days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 I have just spoken to my two local gunshops. Both said If I did want to go down that road then Venom was the way to go. Neither would really want to get involved. Interestingly one said (and to be fair he said they were not air gun specialists) that I would not see enough benefit to warrant spending the money. The second shop said a ball park figure to venom tune it would be £100+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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