harrycatcat1 Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 (edited) I have a side by side which is an Ebor Spanish gun and I am trying to find out what chokes it has and also if I could use non lead shot in it. I have been told that I need to find out what it has been pressure tested to (I think). Anyway bearing in mind it is an old gun and the markings are not great I have had a magnifying glass on it and on one barrel it says "choke 17.6 then 18.3" on the other barrel it says choke "18.?? then 18.??" and on both barrels it says stamped on them T 3.3. A chap who I spoke to says they will be metric measurements. My questions are What chokes are they ? What non toxic shot would I be able to use if I wanted to use it for wildfowling? Thanks in advance. (edited to say this may be in the wrong section) Edited November 27, 2009 by harrycatcat1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Take a photo of the proof marks and post it on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted November 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 I will do that but I am not good with uploading stuff. I really do appreciate your help, give me a day or so. Regards Hcc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 can you describe the proofmarks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted November 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 I will get the mag glass on it give me a few mins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted November 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 BP in a shield G.S.M in a circle K1 X in a shield 12-70 850 k35 1250Gmc K1 2468 I hope this makes sense to someone if not I will get daughter to sort photos. Regards Hcc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 The BP in a shield means it was proofed to 12090psi ,The gsm in a circle is the maker San Martin Gregorio , K1 is the manufacture date 1965 , The x in a shield means it was proofed in eibar spain , the 850 is the metric proof pressure 850 bar standard proof and the 1250 is the weight of the barrels in grams, this was proofed for lead the only non toxic to use should be Tin. hope this helps Andy H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 You could use Bismuth through it and if you wanted to you could use steel as long as you stick to normal steel as opposed to high performance steel. HP steel requires the fleur de lys mark. Providing your chokes are less than half then normal steel in shot larger than a no. 4 will be fine. Tin is possibly the worst non toxic ever made and I would be suprised if you could still buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted November 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 You are an absolute star Andy H, thanks, if you were nearer I would buy you a pint. So its not going to make a wildfowling gun according to that. Thanks very much it looks as though its up for sale again and I am looking for a semi auto. Regards Hcc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 There is nothing wrong with your gun as a fowling piece, You can use several kinds of non toxic through it as well as all other 12b loads in lead. Nothing wrong with the gun at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 (edited) Just had to smile at your last sentence, kids do have their uses. Edited November 27, 2009 by BlaserF3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted November 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 I am sorry for being so thick but are you saying I could use steel shot or bismouth in it ? I just dont know. If it was possible I would keep it. Hcc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 (edited) Yes you can use bismuth and you could also use steel like Express supreme steel 2 3/4" or Gamebore super steel. You could also use Express Hevi shot in the 2 3/4" versions. You would need to have your chokes checked as they should be half or less to use steel Edited November 27, 2009 by MC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted November 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Thanks for your responses they have been very helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Shaw Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Hi Harry The choke you discribe as 17.6 18.3 is 3/4 choke and the other is probebly 1/4. so be carfull with steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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