mr_jack Posted September 11, 2005 Report Share Posted September 11, 2005 thinking very hard about getting this rifle, i have heard really good things about it, this would be my first precharged rifle...so can you all answer a few Qs for us? i dont no weather to buy .177 or .22, i have a ratcatcher and a stingray carbine, i have always gone with .22, as i hunt rats/woodys/pies i will be getting a pump aswell, and wanted to know if the brocock that jsr are selling would be suitable for this kit? weres best to get a cheap pump? how hard is it really when using a pump to charge the rifle? i have had alot of ppl telling me its v hard? is there any truth in this? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJaxeman Posted September 11, 2005 Report Share Posted September 11, 2005 (edited) Hi I myself have a Logun S16 PCP in 22 and as far as pumping the rifle up via a Hills stirrup pump (off E-Bay second hand for only £65.00) I don't have problem with it. Its not that hard as people say and its free and readily available at any time to top up your rifle when you se fit.I can fill my rifle which has a 400cc bottle from empty in about 15-20 mins taking it easy . Good Luck Jas Edited September 11, 2005 by JJaxeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacker Posted September 11, 2005 Report Share Posted September 11, 2005 I'd go for one in .177, i've been hunting with this calibre for a long time, you will hear people say that .22 is the only way to go but the little pellet flies a lot flatter & extend your killing range out to 35 yards. I've shot rabbits, rooks, magpies & pigeons with the .177 with no problems at all. Don't get me wrong, .22 has it's place & is great for rats etc. Pump wise, if choose one make sure you get a moisture trap to go with it, you wouldn't want your new gun to run the risk of going rusty inside! If precharged is your thing then spend an extra £100 & go for a 12litre 300bar tank costs about £3 to top up & will last ages. Hope this helps. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roblade Posted September 11, 2005 Report Share Posted September 11, 2005 Hi mate, just sent you email saying think the S400 would be a better rifle for you than the career LOL (BEFORE i read this post!) try as i might i cant think of anything bad to say about this little rifle i fill the career to about 230-250bar and a 380cc resevoir, using the webley pump, takes about 15 mins but thats taking it easy two min break every 50 pumps (50 bar) basic rule of thumb when using a pump every shot you take is one pump back into the rifle. I think it makes a pretty big difference depending on what pump you use some pumps are a bit eaier to use than others, the webley is the only one i have used but others using it have said its probably one of the best out there. as for the .177 or .22 its totaly personal preference. niether is better than the other, though .22 is soooo last year LOL ROB :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackthorn Posted September 11, 2005 Report Share Posted September 11, 2005 (edited) i own a aa 400k i cant fault the rifle. i use a Logan pump no problems pumping. as for caliber that's your choice. for years i used a22 then i changed to 177 and i never changed back. both calibers do the deed Edited September 11, 2005 by blackthorn687 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_jack Posted September 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2005 thanks for your info fellas, its help alot.... probly go with the s400 k, just got to tie up a few ends first.... it looks a very nice rifle, anyone know wheres selling the cabine the cheapest, thanks for the email rob.... :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Just bought an s410k. Very peachy. If the funds strech to it go for thr multi-shot. Depends what you want though. You will not be disapointed. Enjoy :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Hi Mr Jack, From all accounts the the rifle is a good one and you certainly wont regret it. As for the calibre well, as people have said its personal preference. My preference would be .22 and for these reasons. Firstly, I beleive the .22 is better for live targets from the larger pellet causing more damage. You do get a flatter trajectory with .177 but since you have to learn your hold over either way, i'd stick with the .22. Range is not an issue, I consitently get 50yard head shots with my S16 and the rabbits drop instantly. Finally, if you go with the .22 in your PCP, you will get more shots per fill. Something that may well prove inportant when your out in the field. Regards, Axe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 I am not going to get into the calibre "arguement" again but in my opinion................. ................................................................................ .......................................... Please fill in the blanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackthorn Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 (edited) you will get 70 shots out of a fill in 177 aa 400k-410k moor than Eng on a hunting trip. axe me man why do you need all them shots sounds like your having a little play out there as well as once said dead is dead 22 or 177 i have shot both and they do the same job KILL :blink: Edited September 12, 2005 by blackthorn687 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 axe me man why do you need all them shots sounds like your having a little play out there as well :blink: Because I get alot of rabbits and because i'm a lazy ****** who cant be bothered with all that pumping £2 gets me a full charge at my local shop and I get to drool all over those nice FAC rifles at the same time. Regards, Axe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackthorn Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 (edited) axe you don't need them fac rifles. sounds like your doing fine with what you've got 50yds is some good shooting . thought about extending it another 10 yards on a still day. still enuf power for a head shot :( Edited September 12, 2005 by blackthorn687 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Yeah I am quite surprised how well my 12lb shooting has done. But the FAC is simply the next progression. I wont be getting rid of the 12lb'er though, each rifle has its place in the field. And you certainly cant do a fox with a .22 12ft/lb rifle. :( Im looking forward to the greater ranges and capability of the .22LR and .17HMR. Regards, Axe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackthorn Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 axe changed me mind go for the fac fair play to ya thought you was on about fac air rifles :*) the .17hmr sounds about rite. herd it is a cracking caliber me mates on about us going for a fac for long range rabbits and its the .17hmr were thinking about. best of it when we go lamping he just likes to watch me shoot he thinks i am the dogs gonads with a air rifle. put a shotgun in me hands and i mite as well throw it at them :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 (edited) Don't discount the .22LR Blackthorn it is a truly versatile rifle. I have spent the last 5 weeks going out 2-3 times with Sussex Lad and his 'toys', it has been truly inspiring. The .22LR is a fantastic rifle offering a wide variety of shots and uses. Though he mainly runs subs through it, I have seen him take headshots out to 100 yards with the rifle scoped at 60. Being carbine, its also very light and agile, definitely one for the collection. The .17HMR is slightly different but provides very accurate shooting out to 200 yards. Its also considerably heavier. The only problem is that they are also considerably louder! And maintenance wise well i've been told you need to pull the barrel through every 20 shots, unlike the .22LR subs that probably need it once every 500 rounds! After seeing these in action, I defy anyone not to consider the FAC route. Regards, Axe. :( Edited September 13, 2005 by Axe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussex lad Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Axe, Never been called inpiring before!!! :thumbs: B) :blink: Hope its not an insult :thumbs: :( :thumbs: Glad you enjoyed your first proper nights lamping session, first of many i hope :( Cheers, Brian..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 It would be even better if he bought a lamp Brian! :( I reckon he gets his trousers specially made, he can never get his hand down to the bottom of his pocket :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussex lad Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 It would be even better if he bought a lamp Brian! :blink: I reckon he gets his trousers specially made, he can never get his hand down to the bottom of his pocket :( B) :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: I,m going to have start charging him for ammo ,derv and gun rental!!!! :( I,m gonna be loaded. Cheers, Brian.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 (edited) :( :blink: Edited September 13, 2005 by SNAKEBITE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Ok OK whats this 'ave a go at axe day! Now Snakey, you know my arms dont reach the bottom of muh pockets because they are short and DPM pockets are really really deep. Any how, saving pennies for all my new toys including a Deben Max. When held aloft Snakey, gaze in ore you will. Anyway, Brian, sorry, but what spelling mistake B) :*) and last night I only missed one! :thumbs: What adrenalin rush :( Seriously though Brian, you've been a real gent and if I can help you fund your Sako quad I will. (But only the card box it comes in :thumbs: ). As for the lamping session, well, I know you enjoyed it just as much as I did! Consider it a done thing, first of MANY! Next session, beers are on me :blink: Thanks Brian, Axe. PS Did somebody say discount :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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