Help with shotgun law

[achray]

Hi anyone out there an expert on uk gun law.

I own 2 shotguns out in Turkey, they are on my yacht which is quite legal in Turkey without a license.

The o/u has 18" barrels & the pump has 20" barrels, both have fixed stock.

I have enquired about bringing them to the uk with me & putting them on my fac, my licencing officer seems to think it is not a problem & they can give me permission if i apply (i still have a dozen spaces on my ticket from the handgun hand in)

I know the o/u is ok as i have had a short barrel s/s & a 410 shotpistol on my ticket before, but i thought pumps & autos still had to be 24" minimum barrel & 40" minimum overall.

any advice appreciated, as i dont want to drop myself in it with uk customs.

Edited April 2, 2010 by achray

[CharlieT]

As far as your pump action is concerned it would depend on the capacity of the magazine. If it is able to hold more than 2 cartridges it would be classed as a section 5 firearm and although technically possible for grant on a fac I would imagine you would have difficulty convincing your licensing manager to grant you a slot.

 

The o/u would not pose the same problems and as you say grant of a short barreled shotgun is possible providing you can demonstrate need as you have previously done.

 

If the pump is a 2 shot it would fall into this category so is technically possible but proving a need for two such shotguns may take a bit of doing.

 

Remember that any "free" slots you have will be designated for particular calibers and will need a variation to permit you to acquire (read add) your shotguns to your fac.

[achray]

As far as your pump action is concerned it would depend on the capacity of the magazine. If it is able to hold more than 2 cartridges it would be classed as a section 5 firearm and although technically possible for grant on a fac I would imagine you would have difficulty convincing your licensing manager to grant you a slot.

 

The o/u would not pose the same problems and as you say grant of a short barreled shotgun is possible providing you can demonstrate need as you have previously done.

 

If the pump is a 2 shot it would fall into this category so is technically possible but proving a need for two such shotguns may take a bit of doing.

 

Remember that any "free" slots you have will be designated for particular calibers and will need a variation to permit you to acquire (read add) your shotguns to your fac.

 

i already have 2 multi shot pumps & 1 auto, & last year sold 11 shot & 9 shot remmy 1100s & have permission for 3 more sect.1 shotguns so that is not a problem.

the pump in question is 6+1 so what you are saying is it must be restricted to a 2+1. oh & i gave duff info just looked at a picture of the guns & the pump is longer so it must be 20" barrel.

[Paddy Galore!]

I was told that sec 1 shotguns still have to comply with length regs, ie 24" barrel, the guns you have would technically be classed as section 5. don't know how you'd get granted a sec5 cert.

[achray]

I was told that sec 1 shotguns still have to comply with length regs, ie 24" barrel, the guns you have would technically be classed as section 5. don't know how you'd get granted a sec5 cert.

 

the o/u can go on a sect.1 as barrel lengh is not an issue, as i stated i have owned a 16" barrel 12g s/s & a 6" barrel 410 hammer shot pistol on sect.1 before.

 

i gun i am concerned about is the 20" high capacity pump, i think i will do better selling it in turkey. as i said i dont want to drop myself in it.

 

as for sect.5 i have a few mates who have managed to get sect.5 & still shoot practical pistol now & represent us in competitions worldwide.

[Andy H]

 

Your statement there is correct , They were prohibited by the 1988 act