leonp9lbw Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 I'm pretty sure you have to fill out an application form to go to the states !!! Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverballer Posted July 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 No offence mate, but you sound a bit mental in that statement. 1/ I'm pretty sure bombs/ bomb making/ having a collection of bomb making materials is illegal. 2/ what bearing does "being openly able to carry a firearm" have on your current shotgun application? sounds a lot to me like "look at me I've got a gun" rather than actually having one for a purpose. Nope only thing I would ever use a shotgun for is clay shooting, and only view it as a sporting weapon. If I were in the USA I would own an AMT hardballer or a glock for self defence. I did ask for someone to speak to at my local police station but were less than helpful merely saying, "we don't deal with firearms" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J@mes Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 You should be able to get a direct number off the internet, what station/ force is it you are dealing with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silpig5 Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Nope only thing I would ever use a shotgun for is clay shooting, and only view it as a sporting weapon. If I were in the USA I would own an AMT hardballer or a glock for self defence. I did ask for someone to speak to at my local police station but were less than helpful merely saying, "we don't deal with firearms" sorry mate , you have just answered all our questions . clays you dont need a weapon good luck with your swing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickmep Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 No offence mate, but you sound a bit mental. would love to be a fly on the wall at feo visit.......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 With an attitude like yours, they will NEVER let you go and live in the States. It's a simple form, with simple requests. They don't make exceptions for people who don't like forms or making an effort. And rightly so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 (edited) silverballer, there is some really good advice for you on the thread. we are just trying to help. but you have to understand that owning a shotgun is a serious responsibility. you cannot make statements regarding having a desire for a gun for self defense, or refer to shotguns as weapons. this might seem like semantics to you but if you said this to a FEO he would take it very seriously. You should search through the old threads on the forum for others who were applying for the first time. Edited July 20, 2010 by artschool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chemical Al Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 FAIL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverballer Posted July 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 You should be able to get a direct number off the internet, what station/ force is it you are dealing with? Devon and cornwall, exeter HQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverballer Posted July 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 With an attitude like yours, they will NEVER let you go and live in the States. Sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonp9lbw Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 (edited) Devon and cornwall, exeter HQ You want to look up middlemoor, www.devon-cornwall.police.uk They are very helpful, I had no problems at all just give them a ring. Edited July 20, 2010 by leonp9lbw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverballer Posted July 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 FAIL! Thanks for your contribution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverballer Posted July 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Well I might give them a call and explain a few things but if they're a half decent police force they should be willing to help rather than just disregard my application Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonp9lbw Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Well I might give them a call and explain a few things but if they're a half decent police force they should be willing to help rather than just disregard my application The trouble is mate, what people are trying to say is, you have not come across all that well !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J@mes Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Being half decent would mean following the guidelines fella - If I had an application come in with no reference I'd bin it to be fair. The rules are there for a reason, I expect that with recent issues that they are going to get tighter too. So if an application came in with no referees there is no ******* way they should be considering it, covering letter or not. All you can do is find out who the FEO is for your area, get in touch with them and maybe arrange to see them or find time to speak to them on the phone in order to work out the best solution. Shoot captain as a reference might be a good call, parent of a friend might work too but really it is in the hands of the FEO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Sure Yes - sure. If you think an SGC application form is too much of a ballache to fill in properly, wait till you get hold of some immigration forms. Well I might give them a call and explain a few things but if they're a half decent police force they should be willing to help rather than just disregard my application And you're already lining up the old Bill to take the blame. Of course, they've got nothing better to do than help you. It's all about attitude and you've got the wrong one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverballer Posted July 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 The trouble is mate, what people are trying to say is, you have not come across all that well !!! Why? because I described a shotgun as a weapon? all firearms are potential weapons but I actually prefer to describe them as tools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverballer Posted July 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Like I've mentioned Chard, its not about not being bothered to fill the form in, I just simply don't know that many people with professional standing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 (edited) the other thing i noticed is that you mentioned speeding convictions in your note? i hope that you detailed (date and offense) any thing that resulted in points or conviction. my wife didnt put it down and got a ####ing(well a nice talking too) as you have a legal obligation to disclose everything on the form. they do actually cross check. nb. he let my wife off because she didnt actually have to go to court or receive points so didnt count as a conviction. but it was still on the computer!!!!!!!! Edited July 20, 2010 by artschool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonp9lbw Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Why? because I described a shotgun as a weapon? all firearms are potential weapons but I actually prefer to describe them as tools [/quote It seems to me the more people try to help you the more stupid and argumentative you get. Good Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 please don't take this the wrong way but as i see it you are either a 'plant' looking for info, a reporter may be? or a fool, the hole you dig gets deeper and deeper, 'weapons' what a term Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klunk Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Might have missed it in this thread, and apologies if I have, but what's the need for .410 ammo if you will be shooting 12bore at a club, SB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverballer Posted July 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 please don't take this the wrong way but as i see it you are either a 'plant' looking for info, a reporter may be? or a fool, the hole you dig gets deeper and deeper, 'weapons' what a term To be honest I couldn't give a **** what a few people on a chat forum think, Its easy to hide behind your computer and be downright rude or unhelpful, I was just asking for some advice on the subject. I could care less what you would rather me call a shotgun, a firearm, a weapon, a pellet discharging explosive barrel device. I could care less what you make of my attitude based on a few posts I've made. Oh dear I'm digging myself a hole am I? oh yeah I'm a reporter for the daily mail, how did you guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverballer Posted July 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Might have missed it in this thread, and apologies if I have, but what's the need for .410 ammo if you will be shooting 12bore at a club, SB? I didnt ask to be restricted to .410 ammo but a .410 firearm, once I had got the cabinet set up but until I do, I only want to buy 12 gauge ammo for the 12 gauge gun I hire at the club. The reason why is because I like certain ammo better than others, different recoil etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J@mes Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 seriously: Ring your FEO Ask him what to do. /thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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