Cartridge Prices

[jameslittle85]

whilst we are on cartridge prices

if eley can make 1 ounce cartridges in size eights, that kelbrook sell for 139 per thousand

how is it that no other manufacturer or eley themselves, cannot make the same shell, except with number 6 shot, and retail for £139 a thousand

 

is it that number 6 shot itself costs more than number eight shot

or are we in a market in which price fixing exists?

when the cheapest number 6s in the market are much more than this

 

i welcome your views, and i would like to stand corrected, so that i can keep firing my number sixes without feeling ripped off

[Zapp]

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[Mungler]

whilst we are on cartridge prices

if eley can make 1 ounce cartridges in size eights, that kelbrook sell for 139 per thousand

how is it that no other manufacturer or eley themselves, cannot make the same shell, except with number 6 shot, and retail for £139 a thousand

 

is it that number 6 shot itself costs more than number eight shot

or are we in a market in which price fixing exists?

when the cheapest number 6s in the market are much more than this

 

i welcome your views, and i would like to stand corrected, so that i can keep firing my number sixes without feeling ripped off

 

I get what you are saying.

 

1oz of lead is still 1oz of lead be it of No. 6 or No. 8 shot.

 

Maybe it's economies of scale - so many No. 8 cartridges get fired at the clays each weekend that it makes them cheaper to produce? Hmmm maybe I am grasping at straws there....

 

Now then, riddle me why it is that some FITASC bitchmutha clay cartridges are double the price of the say a similar size clay load from Eley - surely the most expensive component in the cartridge is the lead shot......

[Guest cookoff013]

its all about supply and demand.

pigeon cartridges are usually the cheapest economy components.

 

also lead for pigeons and lead for targets are very different. different antimony content.

 

lead isnt always lead in cartridges.

the fastest clay loads have upto 8% antimony blend, so the shot doesnt deform as much. these loads are the 1500fps loads.

 

pigeon cartridges are usually 1200fps (or thereabouts), it has softer lead, more deformed, slower speed and patterns better for live quarry.

 

all to do with supply and demand.....

[b682]

A one word answer PROFIT !!!!

 

 

#6 shot drops quicker the #8 so if anything should be cheaper but shot makers charge by the ton and do not discriminate on shot size except large shot like BB which is not made in the same way as bird or clay shot.

 

The lead alloy does alter the price but 3% in #8 or 3% in #6 makes no difference. Remove the Antimony to get back to nearly pure PB and the price should be less. Antimony last time I looked was about £6 per KG so is an expensive to add to lead.

 

As I say PROFIT and what the maket/customer will stand for.

[apache]

I suspect that they will sell a lot more cartridges for clays than game. If the manufacturer buys more shot of a certain size they probably get it at a cheaper rate.