Dekers Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Get some 178gr A-max and shoot a fox with that. Then come back and tell me the 308 is less messy.... With a softpoint yes, I won't argue, but it's the construction more than the weight that matters. The lighter bullets can be pushed faster, but tbh I wouldn't bother - run the 150gr NBT at 2800-2900 and it'll do what you want no problem. I don't believe I have used those..or did you give me some, whatever, they sound interesting, perhaps we need a little chat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 The type of tip on a bullet matters little it's the constuction of jacket,core and base that determines terminal effect the tip construction is pretty much meaningless and harks back to the origonal balistic tip bullets which were varmint bullets yet today we even have polymer tipped big game bullets. Also the speed of impact has a large bearing on things if you run a fast fragmenting varmint bullet slow enough and the impact is far enough away it will not fragment likewise run the likes of a heavy deer bullet fast enough and impact a short enough range it will blow up. All hunting bullets are designed to work within a velocity window on a particular quarry type, popping your round between two ribs is going to have a different terminal effect than striking the heavy bone at the top of the shoulder and i for one am going to take some convincing that a 178 grn v-max is going to expand significantly and dump all that energy inside the tiny heart lung cavity of a fox while passing between ribs, likewise this is why we do not use 55 grn varmint bullets on big stags, passing between the ribs they will more than likely do a great job but striking the large bone and meat of the shoulder they are just going to create wounding. Fact of the matter as i see personally is 30 cals are just not intended for small quarry neither are the commonly available bullets but hit them in the vitals and just about any projectile is going to be fatal but .22, 6mm or even .25 and 6.5mm are better choices though as all the power in the world is of little use if it exits the far side of the quarry into the dirt you simply can't kill them double or triple dead through using a bigger and bigger gun. Yes i have had some foxes with my 7mm that look like they have been hit with a bomb however i bet i have had just as many pass through shots without real expantion, contast this with the usual fox calibre rifles and bullets and the results are just far more predictable as is the accuraccy i might add of a gun firing the normal weight for calibre bullets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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