Dekers

I would totally agree with that for FOX, but the OP said …………………………. thinking about a .22wmr as quarry will mainly be rabbits, corvids and close range fox. No contest on that for me, HMR every time!

I can't actually remember any further than 100 yards with the .22lr, and that was a situation where everything came together. I shoot a lot in peoples back gardens, range and noise make the .22lr and subs a common choice, but the HMR also gets used for this, very rarely the WMR. I use my WMR primarily for field/farm/stable/golf course/etc., Fox and Canada goose! Use any gun/caliber/ammo within its, and your, capabilities. Apparently Stevo above says his is conditioned for 50 yards max on fox, I fail to see why any number should be attached to your FAC, if they must tell you this, why not list your 243 for XXX distance on deer?

Nothing has detrimentally changed about .22lr ammo, it is as capable, if not more so now, than it was years ago. All my .22lr were conditioned for Fox (AOLQ now), and even today the Home Office Guide suggests it is capable of fox. Any an every caliber has its limitations, I struggle to understand why the .22lr lists, in simple terms as, close fox, why doesn't the .243 list as Deer...…...but not too far away?! Anyway, I deal with a lot of close fox and I have NEVER had a problem using the .22lr correctly! Tools for the job, and legislating for idiots is a sad situation!

30g Hornady V-Max does pretty much everything I need from my WMR these days!

Silver and brass cases, 30-40g and different speeds!

Drop the 22-250 in the setup and change it to .243. It does everything and more that a 22-250 can do and is also ALL deer legal! I also rate the .243 as an excellent long range round for fox with the likes of 55G V-Max and it's an absolute pussycat to shoot with that ammo! There is no reason you shouldn't get all of them if you have good reason, in reality I would be a little surprised if they granted them all. Good luck, let us know what happens!

I've got both and .22lr as well. Close range fox is easy with both but I've never really thought of a WMR for bunnies. So HMR...… if you add Canada Goose to the equation then WMR.

A couple of years back I went on holiday on my boat, sailed it as far up the Thames until Osney Bridge then came back. On the return trip on the Thames we passed a lovely house, she said...……….. "Didn't we pass that on the way up?!"

I already deal with a lot of Urban foxes, stories like this only help!

It is true that many here don't NEED a firearm of any sort but enjoy a bit of target work or bunny bashing. But why shouldn't people have them if they want? My daughter has just used a AK47 in Vietnam and has the biggest grin you can imagine, whats wrong with that? Target would certainly come under want rather than need, rifle, pistol and shotgun, but as Secretary of my club I am obliged to advise the police of any member who has not shot for a year! With regards field work I can't think of many situations where military style Automatic or Semi Automatic rifles are required. Pistols are ideal/useful in certain field events but we have suffered from legislation following 2 major shooting events. Just the same, all you have to do is look at the figures to see that gun crime has continued since the likes of Hungerford and Dunblane etc. These were terrible events without any doubt but once again the main issue was not addressed and legal gun owners were penalised. The vast majority of gun crime in the UK is from illegally held firearms, not legally held.

….and purely by coincidence I was in earshot...we just didn't have a clue what was going on! It is impossible to convey the shock!

Food Hygiene element is also available as a completely separate course, so you don't need a DSC to put food in the Food Chain!

Perhaps we are saying the same thing but just fill the holes as best as possible externally, and then screw vent covers over the filled holes to disguise them! Failing that you will need a decent bricklayer, it isn't generally easy to do a near invisible job!

One good report...100 bad, long way to go yet to redress the balance!

What the **** is that about?