Martin g Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 My 9 yr old is showing a lot of intrest in shooting, and looking forward again to beating this season. Hes had a couple of lessons at the clay ground with the 410 I have and does really well with it.. Now he is asking when I take him on my perms which are verbal on freinds farms, can I bring the 410 for him to use.. Now the question is, would I be breaking the law by doing this.. Ive tried the search on here and not found a clear answer.. Hope you guys can help before I try BASC.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu_young Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 My 9 yr old is showing a lot of intrest in shooting, and looking forward again to beating this season. Hes had a couple of lessons at the clay ground with the 410 I have and does really well with it.. Now he is asking when I take him on my perms which are verbal on freinds farms, can I bring the 410 for him to use.. Now the question is, would I be breaking the law by doing this.. Ive tried the search on here and not found a clear answer.. Hope you guys can help before I try BASC.. a friend takes his 8 year old shooting an he uses a 410 an has been shooting for the last couple off years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borntoshoot Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 would I be breaking the law in short NO YOU WOULDN'T As long as you have a shotgun certificate he can shoot under your supervision and guidance so I say get him out there enjoying fieldsports and learning to handle guns with respect and dont forget he is the future of our sport so do all you can to encourage him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hucky Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 Don't see why not, you are the license holder and the responsible person so you need to be in full control, so I would suggest to start with only one gun at a time, but no reason why not, my 11 year old shoots clays with me, as I am sure do many others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 If your son does not have a certificate then there area only a very few circumstances in which he can be in possession of a shotgun. One is at a shooting ground or other clay shoot which is covered under Sec 11.6 which allows non certificate holders to shoot clays. One other is shooting with the occupiers gun on the occupiers premises in the presence of the occupier ...are you classed as the occupier of the land you shoot over? That is, in my view, something you need to clear up with your local police, as different police authorities tend to have slightly different views! The Home Office Guidance to the Police on Firearms Law (2002) at our instigation suggested that anyone with a (written) right to shoot over land could be considered the occupier, as the right to shoot over the land implied the occupancy for that purpose. They then ruined the effect by saying that a court might disagree, and that it was then for the courts to decide! So double check first, and or call the BASC firearms team if you are a member David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxon88 Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 he would need a SGC i believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin g Posted September 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Just come off phone to west yorkshire police and they have told me that as long as the farmer is ok about letting my son shoot on his land with me supervising him then there isnt a problem for him to use my 410.. Many thanks for your replies chaps.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Result! Nice to see W Yorks being sensible and effectively treating you as the occupier, hope your son really enjoys himself. All the best David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin g Posted September 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Result! Nice to see W Yorks being sensible and effectively treating you as the occupier, hope your son really enjoys himself. All the best David Many thanks David, Ive even gone and made him a member of BASC Young Shots.. He really loves being out in the country side and looks up to the game game keeper weve been helping this year walking the birds back in, feeding, and improving there habitat for a succesful season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Glad we could help, thank you David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 My 9 yr old is showing a lot of intrest in shooting, and looking forward again to beating this season. Hes had a couple of lessons at the clay ground with the 410 I have and does really well with it.. Now he is asking when I take him on my perms which are verbal on freinds farms, can I bring the 410 for him to use.. Now the question is, would I be breaking the law by doing this.. Ive tried the search on here and not found a clear answer.. Hope you guys can help before I try BASC.. Have seen the threads and glad you have the right answer, the BASC were good. I took out an 8 year old with a .410, only 3rd time with gun and he brought down 4 good pigeons (pictures on, shooting available, new to shooting). So if the gun fits him well he should have a good time let us know how he gets on Good luck bakerboy "terry" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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