dieseldogg Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 (edited) So there I was just about to plump & order a Zeiss 2-8 by 42 Duralty, but I still hankered for the S & B 3-12 by 42 ( but it was a bit heavy) When bloody hell what do I see..........but the new USA model (sigh) S & B Summit.2.5-10 by 40 ****** its perfect? for moi But will it be available to the Uk market Edited November 21, 2010 by dieseldogg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeker Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Have a look at RMacleod.co (com)? .. he had a demo model on his list .. but a week or so ago tho' I use a 3-12 x !!! but they're 1st FP and your choices are 2nd FP Don't know but are the weights that far apart? Just to stir things Leica are doing a $500 off deal in the US on their x42 2nd FP scopes ... maybe its worth seeing if that comes this way?? Some many decisions- so little (..) ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldogg Posted November 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 (edited) I think i want a second focal plane scope, for a .17HMR at ranges not exceeding 150m,(very very hopefully)& mostly 75 to 100m realistically, I have tried my big Hakko (10 to 40 mag) and max 10/12 mag appear to be ample for my needs. I set an egg up at 100m to see what I could see, you see. (cos I could not find a golf ball.) cheers M Ohhhhhhhh Thanks for the tip seeker, tried Macleod's, there, dribble & drool & come over all undecided again.Spoilt for choice. Edited November 22, 2010 by dieseldogg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeker Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 (edited) Yes 'tis a sweet shoppe for big kids!! Just a thort .. have you tried any of the top end scopes?? I have found that better optics need less mag to do the job .. try a s&b /Swaro zeiss on the egg at 6 -8x...might help. FWIW I was told scopes makers can choose to balance between best contrast (S&B - Leica) or best colour (Swaro)- a compromise. Since I could see a difference I choose contrast ... if you want an x40 then Minox may be worth a look I'm told. Not seen one but German glass put together in the US (like Summit?) Used to be decicisive but now .. umm .. err ... if ... but! Edited November 22, 2010 by seeker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldogg Posted November 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 I bes a sucker for quality German stuff( like the Missis) so oh yes I could well buy a S&B, Zeiss or Swaro. I just picked up on a comment by Nickberdo who says 4-16 mag by 50mm and mostly works on 12 mag ( for the .17HMR) I should add that I am still using the "Optimate" or "Optima"? 3-9 by 45 I purchased some 33 years ago. I suspect technology has moved on a bit. Unlike moi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duncan Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 I bes a sucker for quality German stuff( like the Missis) so oh yes I could well buy a S&B, Zeiss or Swaro. Kommt deine Frau aus Deutschland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldogg Posted November 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Well there was apparently a wee bit o inbreeding a wheen o generations ago in our family so i tought I had better bring a bit of fresh blood into the mix. Der Missis is actually 1/2 Prussian ( Yunkers? breeding ) her mothers family being evicted from the Baltic? coast in the vicinity of Goldapp in 1941 by the Cossacks, two or four hours notice, anyone remaining will be killed. Simples. The china and good linen are still there apparently buried under 70 years growth of Birch wood, as the good farmland reverted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duncan Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Well there was apparently a wee bit o inbreeding a wheen o generations ago in our family so i tought I had better bring a bit of fresh blood into the mix. Der Missis is actually 1/2 Prussian ( Yunkers? breeding ) her mothers family being evicted from the Baltic? coast in the vicinity of Goldapp in 1941 by the Cossacks, two or four hours notice, anyone remaining will be killed. Simples. The china and good linen are still there apparently buried under 70 years growth of Birch wood, as the good farmland reverted. To quote a recent general "I wouldn't breed from this officer..." Sounds like a bit of history with your Mrs - and I'll get me a spade and a van to dig up ze China:) . Prussia - very noble part of the new Germany (well countrywise, anything less than a couple of centuries old is new - Germany - born 1871!)plus, gals from the baltic side were pretty hot! Some proper germanic pedigree there mein Kumpe1 :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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