Ireland's Finest! Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 Hi, Whats the best way to encourage a terrier into an earth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul in North Lincs. Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 Hi, Whats the best way to encourage a terrier into an earth? slow and steady introduction at the right age is essential.......some folks make make-shift tubes and tunnels and train their dogs that way to fox scent inside. However some dogs just don't have 'the minerals' to face an adversary below ground, and no amount of encouragement or training will do anything about it....... some fire in....some spew it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 i would allow him to watch a terrier go to ground a few times he will then tell you when he is ready and if poss let him know what the sharp end is all about you wouldnt want to sour him what age is he . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul in North Lincs. Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 just be carefull........Ive recently seen a 5 month pup following and adult to ground....clearly this far too young, and if it got snotted at this age, it could easily ruin the dog for life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ireland's Finest! Posted January 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 He's around a year old, he seems very reluctant to go near an earth, I brought him out today to an earth were there's definetely a fox in it and he seemed very dis-interested, I think I would be better off just buying a dog thats already going to ground maybe hard to come by but I might get lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul in North Lincs. Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 has the dog seen any work before?...what are his marking abilities like, and more to the point what is your fieldcraft like. Did you actually see the fox drop into the earth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 has he seen a fox at all or any kind of work . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ireland's Finest! Posted January 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 has he seen a fox at all or any kind of work . I see what your getting at hear he needs to be out with an experienced dog and learning off him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 and preferably be there at the end of a dig and have a look from behind a fork dont push him into it a few of these and you will know if he will want to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulpicide Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 You dont sound as if you have any experience try and get someone who knows what they are doing to show you the ropes otherwise you could be signing your dogs death warrant. To expect an untrained terrier to go to ground straight off is naive to say the least. How do you know theres a fox in and not a badger Terrierwork is an art not ascience and some people never "get it" joining a terrier club would be a good start google the National Working Terrier Federation for your nearest club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 You need to go out with somebody that knows the game or you'll end up with a dead dog. It's not the sort of thing were you just buy a dog and send it down a hole. Have you got the gear? Collar, locator, bar, spade etc? Do you know how to locate and dig down to the dog? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul in North Lincs. Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 With respect, if you are a novice, it maybe worth familliarising yourselve with the legalities with use of terriers on red-boys:- The use of terriers below ground for flushing wild mammals The use of a terrier below ground to flush a wild mammal is only permitted providing all of the following conditions are met: • Only a single dog is used below ground at any one time • The purpose is to flush out wild mammals solely for the purpose of preventing or reducing serious damage to game birds or wild birds being kept or preserved to be shot • The person must carry with them written permission from the land owner or occupier which you must be able to immediately show to the police on demand* • They must intend to shoot the wild mammal as soon as possible after it is flushed • All reasonable steps must be taken to prevent risk or injury to the dog The manner in which the dog is used must also comply with the following code: • The terrier’s role is to locate and flush the animal, not to fight with it • Only ‘soft’ terriers which stand back and bark are to be used • Care must be taken to ensure the safety of those involved and to minimise the risk of injury to either the terrier or the wild mammal • The terrier’s time below ground must be kept as short as possible • The terrier must always be fitted with an electronic locator • Once it is determined the terrier is trapped, assistance must be given to release it immediately Notes: Nothing other than nets may be placed over entrance / exit holes during the flushing. DEFRA has stated in a written reply that once a terrier has exited the earth the gamekeeper (or presumably terrierman) may dig down to the quarry. * Written Permission – Is Required. Rats and rabbits can be hunted above and below ground as before providing you have permission from the landowner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulpicide Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 That law only applies to England and Wales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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