Acid House Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Only if the guns themselves are out of sight. Ask yourself a few questions. Can a young family member or visitor pick up my gun and have a look at it without my permission. If yes then you are not taking enough precautions. Either move the gun to a secure cupboard or room so casual access is prohibited. If you have a house full of kids and they will probably be tempted at some time to have a fiddle then put a padlock on your gun bag or box, it's very doubtfully they will break a padlock risking a right good b@LNG. If you don't get young visitors then the front door lock is ample defence. If you live in a tent in the front garden you may need to add some security. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome of the Woods Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 (edited) Air Arms now supply and sell separatly cables that go through the trigger guard and two eye bolts to be fixed into a wall.Picture of kit The basic premise of the law is that under 18's should not be able to remove the air rifle from is storage place. As has been said trigger locks are no good because the rifle can be taken away. The rifle/s should be fixed so that they cannot be moved from that location, that is the main stipulation. That location is pretty much irrelevant, so long as they are fixed there. Paul Edited February 16, 2011 by Gnome of the Woods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acid House Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 So your front door lock will be fine then? The gun can not be removed from it's location if the location is locked. I think the suppliers are promoting locking devices..... Wonder why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 So your front door lock will be fine then? The gun can not be removed from it's location if the location is locked. I interpret that to be true as long as no under 18's are in the property or likely to visit. If your over 18 and dont know anyoen with children, any children visiting etc then access is denied. If young people are allowed in the property then you need to secure them away from young people (reasonably) so in the loft may be suitable, a locked cupboard, out of reach (only works for smaller children) although not sure what happens if they get a chair to stand on! I believe this law is engineered to to punish scroates who let kids play with airguns then one gets shot, killed etc by accident because children under 10 cannot be criminally liable under normal circumstances it allows the guns owner/parent/guardian to be prosecuted it will be interesting to see when this gets used and what the courts actually do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garden gun Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 Nobody in house under 18. Two over 50s own rifles - no overt risk - meerkat says SIMPLES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackinbox99 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 I interpret that to be true as long as no under 18's are in the property or likely to visit. If your over 18 and dont know anyoen with children, any children visiting etc then access is denied. If young people are allowed in the property then you need to secure them away from young people (reasonably) so in the loft may be suitable, a locked cupboard, out of reach (only works for smaller children) although not sure what happens if they get a chair to stand on! I believe this law is engineered to to punish scroates who let kids play with airguns then one gets shot, killed etc by accident because children under 10 cannot be criminally liable under normal circumstances it allows the guns owner/parent/guardian to be prosecuted it will be interesting to see when this gets used and what the courts actually do. My thoughts exactly. If you have no under 18s in your house or likely to be in your house, then a front door lock should be enough. But, its only sensible anyway to keep an airgun out of site. Personally I keep mine in a locked cupboard, just for peace of mind. Guess its all a sign of the times. I was speaking to my neighbour about this the other night and he was saying how when he was a kid he used to bunk of school and wander about the fields with his 16bore sbs. He`s 60odd now, so we are talking about 45, 50 years back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 This seems ideal http://www.wiggle.co.uk/abus-combiflex-202-90cm-cable-bike-lock/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=base&utm_campaign=products for securing a few airguns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Clarke Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 The Home Office guidance is available as a .pdf on the BASC website Simon Clarke BASC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 From February 2011, the Crime and Security Act 2010 makes it an offence for a person in possession of an air gun to fail to take “reasonable precautions” to prevent someone under the age of 18 from gaining unauthorised access to it. The legal advice contained within this publication remains unchanged e.g. 14-17 year olds may still use air guns unsupervised on private premises where they have permission etc. BASC website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nic Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 (edited) “reasonable precautions” to prevent children from gaining unauthorised access to it. does durex and the snip count? Edited February 21, 2011 by nic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Popper Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 “reasonable precautions” to prevent children from gaining unauthorised access to it. does durex and the snip count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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