Farmer-of-the-Futre Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Hey all. I have again seem to be under the influence. That is the influence of air, pre-charged air. I recently shot a pcp for the first time, it is a rifle i have been looking at for a while and someone i know kindly let me have a play. It was a AA s410 classic and the guy bought it for about £700 new, beech stock, great scope and silencer. Now i am totaly convinced to 'go pcp' and the s410 is a BIG option. however that £700 is a little out of my pocket so i though second-hand would be a good option. I have seen alot on here but that was when i was looking into getting a new Bsa Ultra but now have once again changed my mind! I know it depends on the individual gun but are second hand pcps something to steer clear of? or will they be fine? i am just wondering as i dont want to buy a used gun to have the seals all crumble up when i get it serviced! so am i making any bad decisions going for a used s410? Also i am prety sure i will become a convert from .22 i ahve always used them but evrything about .177 screams ''pick me!'' atm Oh and i nearly fergot my preferred price wouldnt be anything over £450 that seems to be enough for a second-hand one but i will have to see what i can find Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 I have a old Falcon PCP that is probably from the mid 1990's and it has never let me down. If you buy a secondhand s410 from a gun dealer they will probably have given it a service and you should get at least a 3 months warranty. Even if the seals do go they won't cost the earth to replace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Well done you are nearly there, 410 .177 classic beech stock aa mod 50x scope rws domed pellets dive bottle If you get the above you will be well sorted,the .177 is a faster/flatter pellet so why limit your rifle by getting a .22,the classic has bigger air cylinder so you get more shots,but it does get a bit long when you fit a mod on it,so dont be afraid of getting a carbine as you will still get enough shots if you are after rabbits. If you need to keep to a budget then beech stock is fine,as is the aa moderator which is quiet,the rabbits will hear the the pellet but not the shot. Get a 50x scope with mildots,this will help with range,hold over under,its silly to spend big money on a scope for an air rifle. I sold my aa 410 classic in beech,in mint condition for £450 inc mod at a year old,have a look on 'blackpoolairrifle' bar,they list everything and i think the gun above is £525,the whole kit would only cost about £800 new and you should be able to pick everything up second hand for about £600. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer-of-the-Futre Posted April 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Thanks Falcon and Vampire yeah thats the whole kit im looking for but mabey air arms pellets Getting all that second hand for £600 wold be good I have asked my local gun shop but no reply to the message so im going in tomorow and will ask them to keep a look out if they dont have any. I know that they have at least one R-10 though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade 1of1 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 if you look on gun sales private on here there is a r10 full set up nearly new with bottle mate 600 pounds hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer-of-the-Futre Posted April 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 if you look on gun sales private on here there is a r10 full set up nearly new with bottle mate 600 pounds hope this helps So so tempting, but im after .177 im off to the local gun shop tomorow so i will have a look there I know they do new r-10s for £600 but no scope and dive bottle of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackinbox99 Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 Having kept a close eye on the for sale board this last year, you can easily get a 2nd hand air arms s410 for £450. Ive seen them for £350->£450 for the complete gun, incl scope and silencer. The .177 does seem to fetch slightly more than the .22, but both are equally popular. Everyone I know seems to use the .22 for hunting and the .177 for target, but both can be used for both and its all down to personal preference. I prefer the carbine to the classic. Its much more pointable and easier to handle when out in the field. Shot wise, i get more than enough for 2 or 3 hunting trips, zero`ing and loads of general plinking in the garden before i need to re-charge. For that money thats a lot of gun for little cash, and will definately hold its value. I reckon in 12months time you could still probably get the same sort of cash for it. Whereas, if you bought a brand new one, you`d soon spend £600 upwards and loose loads as soon as you walked out of the gun shop. Buying a 2nd hand pcp is the same as buying anything else really. Try it out, check out the condition, get a feel for what the seller is like - does he seem genuine or not. With things like seals, the s410 is very very easy to fit new seals on it yourself - if its the non-anti-tamper version. Seals in general last a very long time. Ive not known any of my mates with s410s to have any problems. I changed the seals on mine last year just because they cost pennies but the 3 year old seals I took out still looked fine. Other thing with a pcp is you need to factor in the cost of refilling. A lot of gunshops will have a bottle and charge you a few quid to refill it. I personally opted to buy a pump, cost about £120, but is so handy. Takes me just a few minutes with no effort to pump the gun upto full, then I tend to just keep it topped up before each use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer-of-the-Futre Posted April 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 Having kept a close eye on the for sale board this last year, you can easily get a 2nd hand air arms s410 for £450. Ive seen them for £350->£450 for the complete gun, incl scope and silencer. The .177 does seem to fetch slightly more than the .22, but both are equally popular. Everyone I know seems to use the .22 for hunting and the .177 for target, but both can be used for both and its all down to personal preference. I prefer the carbine to the classic. Its much more pointable and easier to handle when out in the field. Shot wise, i get more than enough for 2 or 3 hunting trips, zero`ing and loads of general plinking in the garden before i need to re-charge. For that money thats a lot of gun for little cash, and will definately hold its value. I reckon in 12months time you could still probably get the same sort of cash for it. Whereas, if you bought a brand new one, you`d soon spend £600 upwards and loose loads as soon as you walked out of the gun shop. Buying a 2nd hand pcp is the same as buying anything else really. Try it out, check out the condition, get a feel for what the seller is like - does he seem genuine or not. With things like seals, the s410 is very very easy to fit new seals on it yourself - if its the non-anti-tamper version. Seals in general last a very long time. Ive not known any of my mates with s410s to have any problems. I changed the seals on mine last year just because they cost pennies but the 3 year old seals I took out still looked fine. Other thing with a pcp is you need to factor in the cost of refilling. A lot of gunshops will have a bottle and charge you a few quid to refill it. I personally opted to buy a pump, cost about £120, but is so handy. Takes me just a few minutes with no effort to pump the gun upto full, then I tend to just keep it topped up before each use. Thanks for the reply Yeh im pretty fixed on getting a s410 now and in the next few days im putting a notice up at the gun club down the road so might just get someone selling one down there. There seems to be a lot of talk of filling and i actually started a topic on here not to long ago when trying to decide bottle or pump? Pump to me seems easier, i am only in my teens and should have no trouble pumping up the gun, also it seems to make so much sense that you can just re-fill after a few shots instead of waiting for the whole tank to run out and re-filling, people seem to complaing about it taking a day and a half but sureley you can just top up as you go along. :blink: Anyway i will keep my eyes peeled on here and guntrader ect. and keep pestering my local shop so see if they have got one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 IMO the S410 is worth every penny!I am very fortunate to own a S410 cos they are arguably one of the best PCP's ever made!Brilliant rifle! ATB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger955i Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 HI Beretta I have bought a BSA Spitfire, an HW100 and an AA S410 Carbine all second hand with no problems. The AA S410 Carbine is a brilliant air rifle, blisteringly accurate. reliable light and a decent number of shots per fill. t955i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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