freelancer Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 I'm brand new to air gunning and I'd like to know how to hold the rifle steady when taking a standing or kneeling shot. My rifle is a Webley sport and it's a springer. Cheers, Col Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo_05 Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Build up those arm muscles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Thats basically it. And a lot of practice. you will find that when standing it is possible to get your left elbow in to a niche above your left hip, but this involves standing with your left side facing the target at about 30 deg. Kneeling, if there is a convenient post tree or whatever then lean your back / side against it for support, with both elbows on their respective knees. Make sure the rifle is pulled back in to you shoulder with your right hand and only supported with your left, no white knuckle grip as i have seen some people do, it wont jump that much. If you have a variable mag scope then you can reduce it a bit, it wont actually help you shooting but it will appear to wobble less. All the above is written assuming you shoot right handed. Hope this helps, Tom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freelancer Posted April 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 If there were a tree next to me then would it not be better to rest the rifle over a branch or notch and hold it firmly in place whilst taking the shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo_05 Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 What type of rifle? Not if it's a springer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Hi, No it wouldn't because you can't rest a springer on a solid surface or hold. The way it recolils is the gun is recoiling before the pellet leaves the barrel so it needs to be allowed to recoil correctly and it can't do this if it is being held in a solid grip or rested on a solid surface. Hope this helps. FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitelegghw77k Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 It is possible to rest a springer on a hard surface...PROVIDED...you have something between the hard surface and the rifle, such as a glove or an old green t-shirt. I have a camera tripod with some plastic guttering on the top. I have then padded this with some fabric. It povided good lateral and vertical support, whilst still allowing free forwards/backwards movement. Far from negatively affecting accuracy, I have found this to be far superior to anything I can do freehand. Which is good when going for headshoots on the woodies. This concept is not dissimily to the writeup in one of the airgun mags, where the cheapo bipod which loosly held the barrel increased accuracy, whereas the expensive ones were awful on a springer. My thought are there is no negative impact by using support 'with a glove on it' than by using your hands with a glove on them. The rifle needs to be free to recoil. So bench 'rest' yes, clamped in your workmate NO! Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 if im honest ive never had a problem with springers throwing their pellets around unless you are holding onto them seriously hard. I just zero off a hay bail or wall with my hand between the two (more to protect the stock than anything) and get the zero right. When it comes to shooting in the field i dont think you will think twice about what you are doing.. you just shoot. Ive certainly never had any accuracy problems when ratting and lots of that was done shooting off gates, posts or just standing. just get out there and practice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 If there were a tree next to me then would it not be better to rest the rifle over a branch or notch and hold it firmly in place whilst taking the shot? I think youll be lucky to find a tree with a branch that is just right...I do find gates good for crouching, around the third bar up and fenceposts when standing are just about the right height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocksaplenty Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 shooting poles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 I tried and i dont get on with them, i would rather have an extendable bi pod, or just learn to hold it steady! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitelegghw77k Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Just bought my new shooting poles last weekend. Two 2m green plastic/steel garden canes, with the nobbly bits. Will add a few bits of old bike inner tube, one rolled up as a thick rubber band to join the poles. Very light, not a springing as bamboo, less cumbersome than carrying the tripod round a field!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 I tried and i dont get on with them, i would rather have an extendable bi pod, or just learn to hold it steady! ive tried both double sticks and free standing, and although both have their merits. If you can use a double stick then do. with double sticks i can make headshots at 75 yards without too much problem, however i would not like to try and make a headshot at this range free standing. however sticks are a complete pain to lug around. So when lamping i tend to use the lamp holders shoulder. the sitting without sticks or bipod (hft style) is a worth while position to learn, but is not much use once the crop is up. but when can be used is very steady. my original advice remains, practice. I have only found this out through trial and error and you will more than likely find your own fav. stance which suits your shooting methods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe312 Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 a way that works well with my kids. is for them to hold the stock with there left hand just infront of the trigger gaurd with there elbow resting on there side. my little girl uses a Hw80 with scopes on and she is only 8 (i mwill her of course) try and just got loads of practise holding the gun un loaded at a wall and you will improve.( normal stance as mention above) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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