ste12b Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 I've read the general licenses, I don't need to do anymore than that do I?* I.e. Have a certificate? *other than compliance of course!! You need to have complied with the conditions stipulated (I carry copies in the gun bag). I always check that the farmer/landowner has complied i.e. tried other methods first. The conditions apply differently, so it is good practice to know what condition you are using if approached by the general public or police. Hope that is clearer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr1gg0R Posted June 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Thats great thanks ste12b. I've already printed off a copy and was planning to carry it with me, and thats a good idea about knowing under what condition you are shooting if approached... Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 10 ft/lb is ample for hunting. I have de-tuned my Prosport to around 10.5 ft/lb as it shoots sweeter at that power level and it knocks squirresl and pigeons over all day long. Check the Chairgun data. There's hardly any difference between 10 ft/lb and 12 ft/lb. Everyone is fixated on getting their guns to shoot just under the legal level when there is no need. Im the person telling everyone that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason airarms tx Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 With reference to carrying your gun in a public place-I fail to see why you cannot take it to a mates house to show him as long as its covered by a guncase and cannot be fired? well said bruno 22rf,as long as its covered no problems,you can take em where you like,as long as you got permission to be on land/or on way to friends /gun club-range,..think of it like this for example"if you couldnt take it to your friends house,and he was buying it from him(face to face)how would he be able to sell it to him,if he had no transport to fetch it ...its what is known as a"no brainer" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason airarms tx Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 I still cannot see any reason why you cannot take your gun anywhere you like as long as it is securly fastened in a case/cover so that it cannot be fired.If I want to show my mates my new gun then I will quite happily throw it in the boot-drive around the M25 for a couple of months and then walk with it to his house-I consider this a reasonable excuse for having the gun with me-what should I do?carry a sketch of it with me?A "public place" covers a wide amount of possibilities-obviousley you would be stupid to walk thru a busy shopping centre but down a couple of streets to a mates house is surely acceptable.As long as you meet the age requirements I dont see what laws are being broken-If I want to carry my gun in the boot of my car or over my shoulder in a case to the other side of the village to show it to a mate-then I will do so(and have done so for many years) hear hear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 well said bruno 22rf,as long as its covered no problems,you can take em where you like,as long as you got permission to be on land/or on way to friends /gun club-range,..think of it like this for example"if you couldnt take it to your friends house,and he was buying it from him(face to face)how would he be able to sell it to him,if he had no transport to fetch it ...its what is known as a"no brainer" The only part in this reply being a "No brainer" is the reply itself! You cannot take an airgun gun out socialising. It is not a "good reason" under the terms of th Act and you could be arrested and charged under the Violent Crime Act. In your scenario your mate comes to you, if he buys the gun fine, he can take it home. You don't take it to his house for him to look at. Simple! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason airarms tx Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Simply taking the gun to a mates and showing him is not really enough of an excuse at to why you have it in public, even if it's cased and that, the law might not be happy with it. You should be carrying to a range, vermin control gig or to somewhere where you will be doing some target practice he could be doing some target practice at his friends house or hasnt any one thought of that(its what you call a no brainer) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason airarms tx Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 The only part in this reply being a "No brainer" is the reply itself! You cannot take an airgun gun out socialising. It is not a "good reason" under the terms of th Act and you could be arrested and charged under the Violent Crime Act. In your scenario your mate comes to you, if he buys the gun fine, he can take it home. You don't take it to his house for him to look at. Simple! what about if no one drives and he is selling /or im buying it ..or im going shooting in my friends back garden having been given permission from the owner/ parents of the house and having checked im within 50 ft /15 metres from centre of road ,and all back stops are in place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason airarms tx Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 The only part in this reply being a "No brainer" is the reply itself! You cannot take an airgun gun out socialising. It is not a "good reason" under the terms of th Act and you could be arrested and charged under the Violent Crime Act. In your scenario your mate comes to you, if he buys the gun fine, he can take it home. You don't take it to his house for him to look at. Simple! also you say that dont take an airgun socialising(true),however there was a thread on a forum a few weeks back ,which had a guy asking about shot gun security, when returning from shooting, called for a pint in which a friend of his had the gun safe in the boot of his car broken into and his shot gun stolen,and then his certificate revoked ,fair point ,however the friend who made the enquiry was told by his f.e.o to take your guns cased and locked into a public house with them in future if they wanted to stop for a drink....i have other thoughts ..no 1 alcohol and guns dont mix PERIOD and 2.dont drink and drive,why the police officer was encouraging this behaviour ill never know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 also you say that dont take an airgun socialising(true),however there was a thread on a forum a few weeks back ,which had a guy asking about shot gun security, when returning from shooting, called for a pint in which a friend of his had the gun safe in the boot of his car broken into and his shot gun stolen,and then his certificate revoked ,fair point ,however the friend who made the enquiry was told by his f.e.o to take your guns cased and locked into a public house with them in future if they wanted to stop for a drink....i have other thoughts ..no 1 alcohol and guns dont mix PERIOD and 2.dont drink and drive,why the police officer was encouraging this behaviour ill never know he might of had an Orange juice . Don't jump to conclusions. I take my guns where I like to show people to a place called a gun club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 (edited) also you say that dont take an airgun socialising(true),however there was a thread on a forum a few weeks back ,which had a guy asking about shot gun security, when returning from shooting, called for a pint in which a friend of his had the gun safe in the boot of his car broken into and his shot gun stolen,and then his certificate revoked ,fair point ,however the friend who made the enquiry was told by his f.e.o to take your guns cased and locked into a public house with them in future if they wanted to stop for a drink....i have other thoughts ..no 1 alcohol and guns dont mix PERIOD and 2.dont drink and drive,why the police officer was encouraging this behaviour ill never know The law is not rational in many respects. I can buy a shotgun, put it in a slip and walk round town without breaking any laws. If I buy an airgun I have to go straight home or to the range / permission. I can walk around the shoot with an unloaded shotgun crossing public roads, but if I have my airgun I have to put it in a case. We are talking about airguns here, not shotguns. what about if no one drives and he is selling /or im buying it ..or im going shooting in my friends back garden having been given permission from the owner/ parents of the house and having checked im within 50 ft /15 metres from centre of road ,and all back stops are in place What has driving got to do with it? If he's buying it he comes to you. If you are buying you go to him. The buyer then goes home with the gun. It's that simple! If you are taking it to a mates to shoot within the law then no problem. Why are you inventing unlikely scenarios to complicate things? Edited June 24, 2011 by UKPoacher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade 1of1 Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 little tip for carrying it your allowed to carry gun aslong as it is in case and not loaded and you dont have any pellets on your person and you have a trigger lock on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 (edited) little tip for carrying it your allowed to carry gun aslong as it is in case and not loaded and you dont have any pellets on your person and you have a trigger lock on it That's incorrect. In a case, unloaded, with good reason. That's all you need to do. Edited June 24, 2011 by UKPoacher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr1gg0R Posted June 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 Hi guys, sorry to ask another question but I was wondering what sort of maintenance my rifle will need. It's been sat still for 5 years and I think it's a lot older than that. It's also quite rusty on the barrel. Will just stripping it and cleaning it be enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobby Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 Hi mate, bit out of kilter with the flow of the conversation but thought I'd chuck in my 2 pennies worth. I have a Tracker myself and it dispatches rabbits with ease at 30yds would probably still knock em over at 50 but I am not confident enough in myself to try in fear of causing unnecesary suffering. With the rifle in public problem generally the plod have to have some sort of reason or suspicion to give you a tug so as long as you are not drawing unwanted attention to yourself it shouldn't be a problem. People buy guns from shops everyday and walk them home with no incidents and as a rule it's only the planks that get them out and waving about that have thier collar felt. Enjoy getting into your new hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat toad Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 Welcome to you are confused yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 The other important thing to know about is that you cannot lawfully take your air rifle into any public place without a good reason, i.e going to range or travelling to or from your land. Taking it to your mate's house to let him have a look would not be a good reason in the eys of the law. Actually UK Poacher its not "good reason" it is "reasonable excuse". Taking an air rifle to a mates house for a plinking session, or to grandpas to get it fixed is a reasonable excuse. So would many other reasonable scenarios. You are not restricted to taking it only to a gun club, gunsmith or on vermin control although these are also reasonable excuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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