12G Reloading - Fibrewads and cards

[nabbers]

I just spent the last few hours reading some epic posts on reloading shotgun shells from Sitsinhedges, Cookoff and FloatingChambers and I have to say you guys are legends!

 

I'm new to reloading and am seeing most recipes expressed in tables and for use with plaswads.

 

I'm stocked up 20mm fibre wads and thin and thick cards from Henry Krank at Leeds.

 

The fibre wads have a shiny surface and I read somewhere this substitutes in place of an over powder card. Is that correct? The thickness of the shiny surface seems similar to a thin card.

 

I've actively looked, but fibre wad info is thin on the ground, so I'm reading between the lines...any links anyone?

 

A thick card over the powder makes a good seal and stops the fibre wad from shredding?

What is the purpose of the thin cards? The same? If so is the thickness just to take up space in the case?

[Floating Chamber]

Thin wads, under the shot, take up space as the shot size gets smaller....the shot column gets shorter as the pellet size gets smaller, so a thin card compensates.

[nabbers]

Cheers, and that shiny finish on my fibre wads...can that replace an over powder card?

 

I tried some 70mm cases with 27grains Herco a 20m fibre wad and 1 1/4 ounce of no 6 lead shot, a plaswad recipe from the Herco tables and they didn't confetti, and smoked the high pheasants of the tower at my local clay ground.

 

Which suggests they can?

 

My primers arrived as part of a job lot of a 1000 in a carboot purchase in a tupperware tub, no indication of make or type. Only distinguishing features are some have a red seal and others a black one. The more I read, the more I see the primer can be a critical ingredient, am I being reckless just using these randomly in every type of load?

[Guest cookoff013]

nabbers,

 

if you want a smoking load for game shooting, 1,1/4oz loads of #6 will pulverise anything shot too close. that is a very high shotcount cartridge.

 

if you seriously want a "longer range" or "better" power at distance then the #6 isnt ideal.

 

i`ve a liking for #5shot or #4 subs.... the larger shotsize really wins hands down in the power contest at distance.

i prefer 1200fps or below, to maintain pattern density, and change shotsize to "my liking"

 

those 36g loads will still have a high shotcount in 5 or 4.

 

unless you know what the primer is, i`d treat them with some caution. i`ve substituted primers, but only the correct "heat".

i`m currently burning off rem sts209 in a mediocre pressure load.

[nabbers]

Thanks Cookoff!

 

I loved the subsonic recipe you cooked up on another thread! Shot another fifty at clay pigeons last week and savored the zero recoil once more! The 1 1/4 x 6s that I mention above are bad for the recoil!

 

I'm currently reloading for reloading's sake, I've caught the bug and just want to try different loads out at the clay ground, keeping notes on what does what so I can then have a good selection of cartridges ready for different quarry.

 

Can someone clarify the shiny surface on 20mm fibre wad as an over powder card issue?

[sitsinhedges]

Thanks Cookoff!

 

I loved the subsonic recipe you cooked up on another thread! Shot another fifty at clay pigeons last week and savored the zero recoil once more! The 1 1/4 x 6s that I mention above are bad for the recoil!

 

I'm currently reloading for reloading's sake, I've caught the bug and just want to try different loads out at the clay ground, keeping notes on what does what so I can then have a good selection of cartridges ready for different quarry.

 

Can someone clarify the shiny surface on 20mm fibre wad as an over powder card issue?

 

I think the shiny paper is there to help stop shot from embedding into the wad as it is forced up the barrel.

[nabbers]

I think the shiny paper is there to help stop shot from embedding into the wad as it is forced up the barrel.

 

Thanks Hedges!

 

I've read about under shot cards, stopping the wad from being shredded as it pushes the shot, and over powder cards making a seal, but to me if a snug wad with slightly reinforced surfaces does the former surely it also does the latter?