jweaver Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 Hi.. I am hoping there is someone out there with a Hatsan Escort Semi-Auto who can help me. Since I already have a double barrel and pump, I decided I wanted to build the collection and get a cheap Semi.. After looking at the 2nd hand market, I decided on an Escort. I wanted something a bit different to what I have, so ordered a 26" model. A few days later it arrived and I was really pleased with it, however, when I looked closer in the box, I found a registration card that had already been completed! Turns out that it had been sold before, returned, Hatsan gave a full refund and it was put on the shelf as 'new'.. And then it found its way to me... I complained to Hatsan and to cut a long story, they replaced it.. But since there were no 26" models in the country, I opted for a 28" instead. It was ment to be delivered on the Friday, but didn't turn up, so they told me to use the 26" that I had, because it was going to be used as a 'demo'. So the next day I took it to my local clay ground, and first short 20 rounds or so at their pattern plate and I was surprised how well it worked.. It cycled both types of 28g that I had (Fibre and Plastic) and it seemed faultless. I then shot a bunch of clays and returned home looking forwards to getting my replacement on the Monday. I got the replacement but havn't had chance to shoot it yet.. But there is something about it which bothers me and I didn't notice it on the last one.. Its to do with the 'piston' and just wonder if someone can help me. I have made 2 observations.. 1. When the bolt is cocked back.. If I tip the gun forwards/back you can hear the piston sliding up and down the mag tube.. I would assume that this is normal, but I didn't notice it on the last one. 2. When the bolt is closed, if I look at the piston, its loose.. I can still move it forwards/back 3mm or so.. I would imagine that when the bolt was closed, it would push the piston as far forwards as possible, and there would be no play.. But as it is now, and the piston is loose, I don't feel confident. I am almost certainly looking for problems and its fine, but I would just like re-assurances from another user.. Anyone out there who can help me? Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 Hi Do you have the 'O' ring installed before you you put the barrel on? My forened was lose because I was wrongly instructed to attach the 'O' ring after putting on the barrel. Hedd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jweaver Posted May 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 Hi Do you have the 'O' ring installed before you you put the barrel on? My forened was lose because I was wrongly instructed to attach the 'O' ring after putting on the barrel. Hedd Yep.. Assuming you are talking about the 1-2mm thick one which goes on after the piston. The Piston slides onto the mag tube.. Then the o-ring goes on.. And then the barrel pushes down over the mag tube and the o-ring fits into the groove in the barrel... But even when this is done there is still some 'slop' on the piston. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 That's odd, is the O ring lose when you put it on the mag tube? It should be really tight, on mine you'd have trouble moving the piston when the O ring's on. I'd go and check it out with the RDF or even Hatsan if it you're not happy with it, you can't be too careful mate. Hedd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jweaver Posted May 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 That's odd, is the O ring lose when you put it on the mag tube? It should be really tight, on mine you'd have trouble moving the piston when the O ring's on. I'd go and check it out with the RDF or even Hatsan if it you're not happy with it, you can't be too careful mate. Hedd Nope.. Its on nice and tight... But when the barrel is in place, the piston just doens't seem to fit quite right.. I will make a Youtube video later and would appreciate your thoughts Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailormadefun Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 Nope.. Its on nice and tight... But when the barrel is in place, the piston just doens't seem to fit quite right.. I will make a Youtube video later and would appreciate your thoughts Jon I have a hatsan semi and the piston does have some play, I have shot thousands of cartridges and never had a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 Go for it Jon, I know how frustrating these things can be. Hedd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 My dad's escort semi has a similar thing, you can feel/hear the piston sliding when the bolt is open. I don't know about when it's closed, I don't shoot it, but I know it works perfectly OK. I suspect the O-ring not to be right, but as it works fine it's ignored. I'd check that it is correctly assembled, and then maybe contact Hatsan or a RFD. It's probably nothing to worry about, but on an unused gun it's not what you'd expect. Checking it out shouldn't cost anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizza22196 Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 mine is exactly the same and never had a problem with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Sauce Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 Same as above, still hear the sound of play in the piston and never a problem with rounds spent from 24g plus. Think you'll be ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jweaver Posted May 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 (edited) Thanks all.. I wasn't too worried about the piston sliding.. Its clearly ment to do that as thats how it cocks the bolt back (although I don't remember it doing so on the first gun). But the 'play' when the bolt was closed surprised me... I am still trying to work out exactly how the gas mechanism works and figured that if there is slack, then the inital blast of gas when you fire would come around the outside of the piston, rather than push it back.. But I am sure its right and just have the find the opportunity to test fire it now. Thanks for your help Jon Edited May 29, 2012 by jweaver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizza22196 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 I am still trying to work out exactly how the gas mechanism works and figured that if there is slack, then the inital blast of gas when you fire would come around the outside of the piston, rather than push it back.. But I am sure its right and just have the find the opportunity to test fire it now. thats that the o-ring is there for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jweaver Posted May 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) thats that the o-ring is there for Not sure about that.. As far as I can tell, the 0-ring stops the gas from going forwards (i.e out the front of the fore-end).. So all the gasses come backwards, pushing the piston back.. But since the piston doesn't really fit very tightly, I just get the feeling that the gasses would go past the piston, rather than push it back. But this is pure speculation on my part! Jon Edited May 30, 2012 by jweaver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jweaver Posted June 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 Not sure about that.. As far as I can tell, the 0-ring stops the gas from going forwards (i.e out the front of the fore-end).. So all the gasses come backwards, pushing the piston back.. But since the piston doesn't really fit very tightly, I just get the feeling that the gasses would go past the piston, rather than push it back. But this is pure speculation on my part! Jon Just to conclude this thread, I shot the Escort on Saturday and its fine.. Cycles 28g loads perfectly and performs exactly the same as the original gun they sold me... Clearly the play is normal and doesn't affect the performance. Thanks for everyones feedback on this matter! Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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