muratcan2011 Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Hello Everyone, I hope everyone is having a fun season. I was just wondering if there is a Load Recommendation Chart. Wouldn't it be nice if big shotshell manufacturers could make that list? For example (12 gauge); Dove: 7 shot, 32 grams (1-1/8 oz) Quail: 10 shot, 28 grams (1 oz) Pheasant: 6 shot, 34 grams (1-1/5 oz) Duck: 5 shot, 36 grams (1-1/4 oz) Wood pigeon: ... Hare: ... Rabbit:... Grouse:... ... Thanks already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 £ is the biggest driving force on cartridge selection. in a recent basc pole, most opted for the #6 for everything. this has been by experience also, people are cheap, or they dont understand what the hell they are even firing. or theyy find it convienient to just shoot 6s. i`ve spoken to many guys as i like to have shell input as well as reloading input. typical responce, i asked a guy, "what shot size you use for clays" "6" and for rabbits? "6" hares? "6" geese? "6" fox? "6" then i was told to F -off when i pointed out shooting geese with lead is illegal. For example (12 gauge); WoodPigeon: 6 shot, 32 grams (1-1/8 oz) 1400fps Pheasant: 4 shot, 36 grams at 1200fps -1400fps Hare: ...4 shot minimum,or #2 shot 36 grams at 1200fps -1400fps Rabbit:..#4 shot. now there are going to be a few guys laugh at this, and say ***? give me a whole spiel, that they can shoot foxes with there 9mm garden gun with 1/4oz of #12 shot at 50 meters. but you know what? its my money, i`d do what i`d like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 depends on range, gun and choke not just quarry. no good using no1 or bb for fox at more distant ranges if your shooting skeet choke. any chart could be as misleading as it were helpfull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 4's are also excessive for pheasants unless they are really high, there is a point with 32gram 6's they will kill most things. My only real exceptions are wildfowl where non toxic and larger are required, Hares on Hare drives I will go up to 4's and well foxes get taken with anything in the gun. Its rare to go out just for them with a shotgun but if i do then I usually use 4's left over from Hares and just keep the range sensible. Pretty much everything else I'll use 6's on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 4's are also excessive for pheasants unless they are really high, there is a point with 32gram 6's they will kill most things. My only real exceptions are wildfowl where non toxic and larger are required, Hares on Hare drives I will go up to 4's and well foxes get taken with anything in the gun. Its rare to go out just for them with a shotgun but if i do then I usually use 4's left over from Hares and just keep the range sensible. Pretty much everything else I'll use 6's on Just to say i shot a hare the other day with a .410 and 18grm sixes and it didnt even twitch (litrally it just fell on its side like a knock over target). Full choke, confidence in the pattern and most importantly the correct range like you correctly say. No way is a .410 to be recomended for hares though and anyone who turns up with one on a hare day should be sent home I wouldn't use anything on fox, just range and choke appropriate loads, peffereably tested on paper first. BTW 4's or a goodly load of 5's are the better load for hares from a 12 bore. At the end of the muzzle you can drop a cow on the spot with 28grm of no6, but just dont try it at 35yds Knowing the parameters of what you have in your hands is paramount AND sticking rigidly to it whatever comes is far more relivent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 I will add a slight one when mentioning anything in the gun on foxes, most of mine will be opportunist on driven days so they are never very far away. Hence having shot more than a few with 6's as you don't get chance to change them I can conclusively say keep still let them keep coming and shoot them at the last moment possible. Patience comes with experience and movement is what gives you away when a fox is doing its best to avoid beaters and neighbouring guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Morris Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Nobody yet has answered this chap's question, yes there is a load recommendation chart and it can be found in the Eley Shooter's Diary which is available as below: Eley Shooters Diary 2013 - £4.95 www.philipmorrisdirect.co.uk/eley-shooters-diary-2013/product/ Eley Shooters Diary 2013, Pocket sized and crammed with useful information about every aspect of game and clay shooting. A very popular diary as customers ... No doubt it is available elsewhere and I have not seen a copy for years but when I last saw one it was full of useful information (as it says above) including cartridges, choke borings and theoretical patterns at 40 yards. I have no connection with the advertiser above and I do not use Eley cartridges. I hope this helps. Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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